It seems to me that the idea of not having to accept arbitrary duality -- the idea that there's always a third option if you're willing to look for it -- was one of the ongoing themes of the show. It's an idea both the series and the central character regularly bucked.
You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
victor infante - Nov 11, 2005 4:00:09 pm PST #2430 of 10459
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
brenda m - Nov 11, 2005 4:10:20 pm PST #2431 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
However, I can buy Buffy being so traumatised by having made that decision once that she'd never "kill" or kill another loved one to save the world, and would rather die than sacrifice any single other person.
This I think is very true, and true to the character. But I think the con argument - or at least the "cost" argument - really needed to be made to show the cost of that decision - and by someone other than the then-outsider Wes.
§ ita § - Nov 11, 2005 4:13:28 pm PST #2432 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think the con argument - or at least the "cost" argument - really needed to be made to show the cost of that decision
I think it was made, at times. I think the bounding condition was that she had to be pretty shiny, still. Angel was willing to go pretty dark, but even after Giles left, Buffy wasn't a Ben-killer.
bon bon - Nov 11, 2005 5:55:11 pm PST #2433 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
If there was always a third option there's no dramatic tension. It's like calling it "Deus Ex Machina the Problem Slayer." So I am not convinced that that could be a persistent theme.
Connie Neil - Nov 14, 2005 8:22:42 am PST #2434 of 10459
brillig
I'm listening to the OMWF soundtrack, specifically Walk Through the Fire, and I'm happily imagining ASH and JM in the recording studio together. Mmm.
Vortex - Nov 15, 2005 6:55:34 am PST #2435 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
MY BUFFY SEASON 1-7 DVD SET HAS SHIPPED!!! I am VERY excited.
Sophia Brooks - Nov 15, 2005 7:00:41 am PST #2436 of 10459
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Is the 1 - 7 set any different (except packaging) from the separate sets?
Vortex - Nov 15, 2005 7:08:57 am PST #2437 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
there's a bonus DVD and "booklet" apparently.
§ ita § - Nov 16, 2005 6:00:31 am PST #2438 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Vampires and human food. Food for humans, not food of humans -- outside of IWRY, what's in canon?
I seem to remember Spike being anomalous (and stating so), but can't think where, with his taste for beer and onion stuff.
Steph L. - Nov 16, 2005 6:13:53 am PST #2439 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I hate there always being an option. Sometimes, the sister needs to bite it.
Yeah, but then someone gets a nifty idea, and suddenly Jason Todd isn't as dead as he seemed.