Well, you'd better not be thinking what I think you're thinking, because my answer is the same as always — no threesomes unless it's boy-boy-girl. Or Charlize Theron.

Harmony ,'First Date'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


DavidS - Nov 10, 2005 7:17:17 am PST #2377 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm all for continuing canon, but that storyline left me pretty bitter and cranky. No desire to see more of it.

I think a lot of people disliked that story because we really didn't see it from Buffy's perspective, but rather from her two jealous exes. I think it could repair a little damage if we actually got Buffy's experience there.

Besides, maybe we could see eye-patch Indiana!Xander in Africa too.


P.M. Marc - Nov 10, 2005 8:04:12 am PST #2378 of 10459
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I think it could repair a little damage if we actually got Buffy's experience there.

You're assuming that there's any reason to trust what J WeeWee will be doing in the comic.

I don't think there is.

I also would like the canon to remain closed, not because I didn't want more stories, but because I'd like there to be as little tainting as possible, and the end arc of AtS was already more than I'd like.


DavidS - Nov 10, 2005 8:40:10 am PST #2379 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

You're assuming that there's any reason to trust what J WeeWee will be doing in the comic.

So you don't trust Joss anymore? (Or...never trusted Joss?)


Strega - Nov 10, 2005 8:49:32 am PST #2380 of 10459

I didn't like the Italian hijinks because they weren't very funny, and they were supposed to be. I doubt that Buffy's perspective would increase the comedic value.

But Whedon's declarations don't affect what I think is canonical. Does that really make a difference to people? I'd rather there not be any TV movies, just because those are much harder for me to completely ignore. The comics are very easy for me to ignore, so if he wants to keep milking the franchise that way, fine with me.


bon bon - Nov 10, 2005 8:54:17 am PST #2381 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

It's not about narrative perspective and it's a little about trust. The Buffy-in-Italy story was like Godfather III. If you're going to go back on a satisfying resolution, do it right. Don't yoke it to a retarded storyline and fail to get the right actress for the part. We trusted that the story was resolved; don't yank off the [scab] unless you can cauterize the bleeding hole you create.


Lyra Jane - Nov 10, 2005 8:55:04 am PST #2382 of 10459
Up with the sun

I am also happiest with a closed canon. But I won't buy the comics either way, so it's kind of a moot point for me.


P.M. Marc - Nov 10, 2005 9:46:21 am PST #2383 of 10459
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

So you don't trust Joss anymore? (Or...never trusted Joss?)

I don't put my faith in any one writer or creator. That way leads to bitterness. This feels (as does the Spike movie notion) like more cash cow to milk than a genuine interest in returning to the universe.

Plus, umm, I think Joss is fairly uneven as a comic book writer. The medium is unkind to his weaknesses as a storyteller.


DavidS - Nov 10, 2005 10:29:43 am PST #2384 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The medium is unkind to his weaknesses as a storyteller.

What do you see as his strengths and weaknesses?

I've been thinking about this lately in relationship to Serenity.


DavidS - Nov 10, 2005 10:46:20 am PST #2385 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From the Whedonesque post:

See, the Buffyverse glows in my brain with a new, overreaching arc that will include the comics, Spike, and more. It's taking shape and soon you will know its name. And you will tremble.

See, I really do think Joss likes to play in that sandbox.

Well, I certainly can't say much more, except that Wonder Woman is finally kicking ass that is not my ass, as in, I'm loving this script. She's saving the world in a tiara, people; this is why there's a me!

Saving the world in a tiara. Sounds like a movie we'd like.


Jessica - Nov 10, 2005 10:48:51 am PST #2386 of 10459
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

See, I really do think Joss likes to play in that sandbox.

I think that's how he talks about everything.