I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Amy - Oct 19, 2005 10:39:18 am PDT #2202 of 10459
Because books.

Third, for attempting to have their character cake and eat it too by not making the changes in the character all that major.

Exactly. He's crazy! He's not crazy! He's crazy again! O...kay.

And I felt like I could see the moment when the writers decided, Hey! Let's use the crazy thing and have the First manipulating him! What the hell!

Season 7 makes me so sad.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:41:07 am PDT #2203 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm like the only person who had a problem with a tonal shift from "dark and disturbing drama" to "show that cites to Fraggle Rock."

See, the shift from Epiphany to Pylea pissed me off. I thought the muppets were much darker than Pylea, so it didn't jar at all.

There is no level of creepiness that will get me attracted to muppets.

But it turns out there's a level of muppetness that can get me attracted to Oliver.

Go figure.


bon bon - Oct 19, 2005 10:44:39 am PDT #2204 of 10459
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

There is no level of creepiness that will get me attracted to muppets.

But it turns out there's a level of muppetness that can get me attracted to Oliver.

I know I can always count on you to bat what I'm pitching way out of the park.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2005 10:45:20 am PDT #2205 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oliver, like OC Oliver?!?


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:51:42 am PDT #2206 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know I can always count on you to bat what I'm pitching way out of the park.

And proudly.

Oliver, like OC Oliver?!?

Can't you see it? I can see it. It's quite cuddly.


Maria - Oct 19, 2005 10:55:51 am PDT #2207 of 10459
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I'm so glad I never got sucked into the OC. My life is woobiefied enough as it is.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2005 10:56:18 am PDT #2208 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oliver, like OC Oliver?!?

Can't you see it? I can see it. It's quite cuddly.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:58:17 am PDT #2209 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My life is woobiefied enough as it is.

Trust me. The unplush version is quite psycho and repulsive. But all that nutness in a little puppet version? Whee!

And, yeah, topic -- RIGHT. The coyness about PodGiles (coyness, crap writing, whatever). That did make me quite angry too.


SailAweigh - Oct 19, 2005 1:44:03 pm PDT #2210 of 10459
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I yawned during Seeing Red. And PodGiles was teh lamest of the lame.

St. Cordy sucked.


ChiKat - Oct 19, 2005 2:15:13 pm PDT #2211 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I'm well aware that I'm like the only person who had a problem with a tonal shift from "dark and disturbing drama" to "show that cites to Fraggle Rock."

No, you're not. I sat here dumbfounded at everyone's love after it aired. Still don't quite get it. I don't HATE it, but I don't get the love.

My least fav?

Angel: St. Cordy, the use of the word "champion," the multitudes of previouslies that had "handsome man, saved me from the monsters," CoCo, Cordy/Angel lurve

Buffy: Willow's car wreck, pod Giles, too many new people to follow in S7, speechifying in S7, the mere existence of Spike after S5.