Two by two, hands of blue. Two by two, hands of blue.

River ,'Ariel'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:51:42 am PDT #2206 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know I can always count on you to bat what I'm pitching way out of the park.

And proudly.

Oliver, like OC Oliver?!?

Can't you see it? I can see it. It's quite cuddly.


Maria - Oct 19, 2005 10:55:51 am PDT #2207 of 10459
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I'm so glad I never got sucked into the OC. My life is woobiefied enough as it is.


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2005 10:56:18 am PDT #2208 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oliver, like OC Oliver?!?

Can't you see it? I can see it. It's quite cuddly.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.


§ ita § - Oct 19, 2005 10:58:17 am PDT #2209 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My life is woobiefied enough as it is.

Trust me. The unplush version is quite psycho and repulsive. But all that nutness in a little puppet version? Whee!

And, yeah, topic -- RIGHT. The coyness about PodGiles (coyness, crap writing, whatever). That did make me quite angry too.


SailAweigh - Oct 19, 2005 1:44:03 pm PDT #2210 of 10459
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I yawned during Seeing Red. And PodGiles was teh lamest of the lame.

St. Cordy sucked.


ChiKat - Oct 19, 2005 2:15:13 pm PDT #2211 of 10459
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I'm well aware that I'm like the only person who had a problem with a tonal shift from "dark and disturbing drama" to "show that cites to Fraggle Rock."

No, you're not. I sat here dumbfounded at everyone's love after it aired. Still don't quite get it. I don't HATE it, but I don't get the love.

My least fav?

Angel: St. Cordy, the use of the word "champion," the multitudes of previouslies that had "handsome man, saved me from the monsters," CoCo, Cordy/Angel lurve

Buffy: Willow's car wreck, pod Giles, too many new people to follow in S7, speechifying in S7, the mere existence of Spike after S5.


Strega - Oct 19, 2005 3:03:02 pm PDT #2212 of 10459

Ooo, I get to play catch-up...

It's tricky because I was spoiled quite a lot. I think that the nihlistic sex in "Reprise" needs a mention for good HSQ. Partly because it features the only time I found Boreanaz kinda hot. But locking up the lawyers made me applaud, so that has to be my favorite.

Lindsey's return in S5 should have an honorable mention though, just because when I read the spoilers about it I was giggling for days, and I didn't even miss Lindsey particularly.

With Buffy, sending Angel to hell has to win just because I knew about the Angel spin-off at that point, and so I knew that he'd be resouled and everything would end happily. Sometimes being casually spoiled makes things more surprising.

Bad HSQ... With Buffy, maybe the "Ooo, maybe we just killed Giles. Off-screen. We might have! Er, are you buying this at all? Hello?" in whatever episode that was. And with Angel, Spike's return in S5. Both of those made crickets chirp in my head.

Also, A Damned Hole in the Fucking World.

Oh, oh, but back to the good -- the face-off in "Origin" was awesome in every way. That had a high HSQ on so many levels; what was happening, and why, and what was about to happen, and what it meant, and what had happened before. It was a very pretty thing.


Beverly - Oct 19, 2005 3:21:11 pm PDT #2213 of 10459
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I've done HSQ and favorite hate moments before, and I couldn't think of anything original to say. What about your favorite small moments? Sometimes no bigger than a pause for breath between larger scenes, character-revealing, relationship-defining, and/or perspective changing moments?


Steph L. - Oct 19, 2005 3:24:21 pm PDT #2214 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What about your favorite small moments? Sometimes no bigger than a pause for breath between larger scenes, character-revealing, relationship-defining, and/or perspective changing moments?

For me, it will always, always, ALWAYS be the scene in "Forever," after Joyce's funeral, of Giles in his apartment, drinking scotch and listening to "Tales of Brave Ulysses."

It's maybe 10 seconds, and all on its own it's poignant, but as a callback to "Band Candy," it's really powerful.


Kate P. - Oct 19, 2005 3:25:28 pm PDT #2215 of 10459
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

One of my favorite overlooked lines is in "Dopplegangland", I think. Willow and Percy have been called to Snyder's office, and Snyder is explaining to them why they are there. He says (paraphrasing) "With your big brains, and Percy's athletic prowess, well, I think you can guess what I'm getting at," and Willow says in a small, confused voice, "You want us to breed?" It's a total throwaway line, but it cracks me up every time. Because of course that's where Willow's mind goes first!