Aren't they something. They're like butterflies, or little pieces of wrapping paper blowing around.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2005 8:47:38 am PDT #1636 of 10458
What is even happening?

Surprise was like my 3rd episode ever. I spent all of Innocence wondering how they were going to cure Angel by the end of the episode. It never ocurred to me that they might leave him that way, which is one of the things that put the hook in me big time.
Scott and I were watching Becoming last night. He was imagining what it must have been like to see season 2 in real time. We came in, in season three, and so were spoiled by exposition and reruns.

Oh, and for Vortex, Matt is right. The Orb of Thesulah definitely disappears after the Gypsy Woman imparts the original curse on Angelus. I didn't get to the second half of Becoming, actually, I didn't get the the second half of Becoming, part I, because I fell asleep, but that must be what happens when Willow re-curses Angelus.


JenP - Aug 05, 2005 8:49:56 am PDT #1637 of 10458

Heh, I enjoyed backtracking to find the Giles reveal at the end of S6. I was a very new and intermittent lurker (or, actually, might have not even been here yet) at the time - in any case, I wasn't doing the W-n-P, but I just loved the string of

GILES!!!!!!!!!

Warmed my shrivelled up little walnut of a heart, it did.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 05, 2005 8:51:13 am PDT #1638 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Scott and I were watching Becoming last night. He was imagining what it must have been like to see season 2 in real time.

Unfortunately, unless you were really going out of your way to avoid spoilers, it was pretty common knowledge at that point that Angel was in the early planning stages, even if there was a still a whole season of Buffy to go before it saw the light of day. At least that's my memory, and I was watching in real time.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2005 8:54:33 am PDT #1639 of 10458
What is even happening?

Was it still surprising that she killed him (sent him to Hell, whatever)? What about Angel losing his soul?


-t - Aug 05, 2005 9:00:31 am PDT #1640 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Was it still surprising that she killed him (sent him to Hell, whatever)? What about Angel losing his soul?

That was all a total shock to me. I watched in real time and wasn't involved in fandom at all. It seemed as if anything could happen.

I was also unspoiled for Angel coming back, though that was kind of disappointing.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 05, 2005 9:01:12 am PDT #1641 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Was it still surprising that she killed him (sent him to Hell, whatever)?

It was sad, but because of the known spin-off it was obvious it wouldn't last.

What about Angel losing his soul?

As I said, 3rd episode ever, so I figured they'd have it fixed by the end of the episode, or maybe the next. It wasn't until Passion that it was obvious they weren't going to fix any time soon.


ChiKat - Aug 05, 2005 9:09:17 am PDT #1642 of 10458
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Someone spoiled the thread for Angel getting his soul back. Can you imagine?

NO!!! Oh, that's awful!

I spent all of Innocence wondering how they were going to cure Angel by the end of the episode. It never ocurred to me that they might leave him that way,

Knowing Joss the way you do now, you know that was a foolish thought! Bring on the pain, baybee.

GILES!!!!!!!!!

I scared my cat by actually screaming that out loud.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2005 9:12:27 am PDT #1643 of 10458
What is even happening?

And, if you read on? Someone spoiled the thread for Angel getting his soul back. Can you imagine? We'd have lynched him, these days.

I found out about Joyce's death (I'd expected her death, but still...) because someone created a thread and the title read, "Spoilers inside! JOYCE DIES!!!" ugh


ChiKat - Aug 05, 2005 9:13:20 am PDT #1644 of 10458
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Oh, no! What board was that on, Cindy? The Bronze?


Topic!Cindy - Aug 05, 2005 9:17:06 am PDT #1645 of 10458
What is even happening?

It was on the threaded side of the Bronze, ChiKat. I was already lurking at the linear side (which is what most, if not all, Buffistas are talking about, when they refer to the Bronze).

GILES!!!!!!!!!
I scared my cat by actually screaming that out loud.
My husband accidentally hit the stop button on the VCR, while we were recording--right at the GILES!!!!!!!!!!! moment. I had to work very hard to remember marriage is more important than a TV show. Fortunately, my Bronzer friend white wings (who lurks sometimes, hi white wings) took pity on us, sent me a tape of both.