Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.

'Unleashed'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:30:22 am PDT #1462 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Do you think Anya went to heaven or to hell*?

(*using the common Christian definition of the terms, even if you don't believe in them.)


Tom Scola - Jul 29, 2005 8:32:38 am PDT #1463 of 10458
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Anya earned a spot in Valhalla.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 29, 2005 8:33:36 am PDT #1464 of 10458
What is even happening?

If those are her only options Perkins, I say heaven, because she gave her life in the fight against evil.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 29, 2005 8:34:48 am PDT #1465 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yup, avoided the Straw Death. She'll like the mead halls there.


Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:38:01 am PDT #1466 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Tom Scola's not playing by the rules. He's right, of course, but still.


DCJensen - Jul 29, 2005 8:38:28 am PDT #1467 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.

And she can annoy the Valkyries.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 29, 2005 8:42:53 am PDT #1468 of 10458
What is even happening?

I played by the rules, and yet again, a boy who disobeyed them gets all the attention. It's just like elementary school, all over again.


juliana - Jul 29, 2005 8:43:33 am PDT #1469 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Tom Scola's not playing by the rules. He's right, of course, but still.

Well, he could be. Valhalla would be Anya's perception of Heaven, ergo Anya's in Valhalla.


Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:49:08 am PDT #1470 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

But I specified the common Christian definitions of the terms.

Stop coloring outside the lines, missy!


Wolfram - Jul 29, 2005 8:50:52 am PDT #1471 of 10458
Visilurking

Valhalla would be Anya's perception of Heaven, ergo Anya's in Valhalla.

That would indicate that were Anya to go to Heaven it would necessarily be her perception of Heaven. Also, I thought Tom was suggesting Valhalla because its admission policy differed from standard Heaven.

I think the question of whether Anya is in Heaven or Hell turns on her culpability for the evil she perpetrated as a vengeance demon. Is she the same entity as a human as she was an a demon? Did she have the same capacity for choosing right over wrong? If yes, then she would have had to make appropriate amends for all that evil, which I don't think she did. If not, then her heroic actions as a human would land her in the good place.