Tom Scola's not playing by the rules. He's right, of course, but still.
Well, he could be. Valhalla would be Anya's perception of Heaven, ergo Anya's in Valhalla.
I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?
Buffy ,'Lessons'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
juliana - Jul 29, 2005 8:43:33 am PDT #1469 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:49:08 am PDT #1470 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
But I specified the common Christian definitions of the terms.
Stop coloring outside the lines, missy!
Wolfram - Jul 29, 2005 8:50:52 am PDT #1471 of 10458
Visilurking
Valhalla would be Anya's perception of Heaven, ergo Anya's in Valhalla.
That would indicate that were Anya to go to Heaven it would necessarily be her perception of Heaven. Also, I thought Tom was suggesting Valhalla because its admission policy differed from standard Heaven.
I think the question of whether Anya is in Heaven or Hell turns on her culpability for the evil she perpetrated as a vengeance demon. Is she the same entity as a human as she was an a demon? Did she have the same capacity for choosing right over wrong? If yes, then she would have had to make appropriate amends for all that evil, which I don't think she did. If not, then her heroic actions as a human would land her in the good place.
juliana - Jul 29, 2005 8:51:33 am PDT #1472 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Stop coloring outside the lines, missy!
Ah, but if Heaven is where you're happy and basking in the love the Creator has for you (which is my impression of the common definition), then why wouldn't the loving Creator put you in the place that would make you the happiest? Anya would be happiest in Valhalla.
Vortex - Jul 29, 2005 8:51:58 am PDT #1473 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
If those are her only options Perkins, I say heaven, because she gave her life in the fight against evil.
well, it's interesting. The whole premise of the show "Brimstone" was that although this guy was a cop and gave his life in the line of duty, he was still punished for the sin of murder. That's always resonated with me.
I don't that Anya would have gone to heaven, because I don't know that she was really sorry for her "sins".
Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:53:16 am PDT #1474 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I think it goes beyond that, Wolfram, since she willingly chose to become a demon. Twice even.
Does her later choice to become human again negate that?
Lee - Jul 29, 2005 8:54:22 am PDT #1475 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Stop coloring outside the lines, missy!
Ah, but if Heaven is where you're happy and basking in the love the Creator has for you (which is my impression of the common definition), then why wouldn't the loving Creator put you in the place that would make you the happiest? Anya would be happiest in Valhalla.
Stop using logic outside the lines, missy!
§ ita § - Jul 29, 2005 8:55:56 am PDT #1476 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think that Anya would rather go to your Hell than your Heaven, Perkins, and it's not very nice of you to limit her thusly.
juliana - Jul 29, 2005 8:56:03 am PDT #1477 of 10458
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Stop using logic outside the lines, missy!
Pffft. You're just trying to oppress my creativity. Oppressress! Fanwank or die!
DCJensen - Jul 29, 2005 8:58:14 am PDT #1478 of 10458
All is well that ends in pizza.
If I go on a fanfic diet, do I have to go to Wank Watchers?