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Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

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Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.

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Jessica - Mar 31, 2026 6:51:34 am PDT #10705 of 10715
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

S7 is about as messy as I remember. The narrative is caught between "introduce a bunch of new lore before we run out of time" and "let's get back to basics" AND "keep Spike relevant at all costs" in a way that makes for very lumpy repetitive storytelling even before we merge into the Speeches And Potentials roundabout.

AtS S4 has reached the point where Charisma Carpenter is VERY visibly pregnant, but Cordelia's pregnancy hasn't yet been revealed (she slept with Connor about three days ago in show time) so she's spending a lot of time wearing extremely billowy blouses or sitting down with a pile of blankets in her lap.

dcp - Mar 31, 2026 7:16:38 am PDT #10706 of 10715
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

very lumpy repetitive storytelling

Yes. Did not like that aspect.

Kalshane - Apr 01, 2026 6:09:14 am PDT #10707 of 10715
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I've never understood what the point of the Scrappy Gang was. Like they completely changed their mind about the course of the season after the first couple episodes.

Jessica - May 04, 2026 9:44:52 am PDT #10708 of 10715
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We are done with Buffy! S7 is a tough one to get through but it really does stick the landing. "Are you ready to be strong?" = Instant Tears

I had forgotten that Spike's inclusion in AtS S5 was spoiled by the credits (at the time it was spoiled by a gazillion WB promos but I was hoping to make it a surprise for Aeryn).

-t - May 04, 2026 10:11:33 am PDT #10709 of 10715
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Aw. That really was a good ending

Tom Scola - May 08, 2026 3:39:13 pm PDT #10710 of 10715
They pay me in WOIMS

The Buffy reboot didn’t get picked up, but David Boreanez’ Rockford Files reboot did: [link]

Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2026 8:43:58 am PDT #10711 of 10715
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

Man, I'm glad R.J. Decker (from the same executive producers) got its start a season earlier, the two shows have an almost identical premise. I don't think it would have been picked up if the Rockford Files reboot were already airing.

Kalshane - May 09, 2026 9:01:24 am PDT #10712 of 10715
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm struggling to picture David Boreanaz as Jim Rockford but I admittedly have not seen much of his post-Angel work outside of a few random episodes of Bones.

Laura - May 09, 2026 11:57:29 am PDT #10713 of 10715
Our wings are not tired.

I can definitely see him as Rockford.

Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2026 7:42:01 pm PDT #10714 of 10715
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

I've heard enough rumors about him being awful on set in his later career that I'm not sure I want him as easygoing genial Jim Rockford, despite the resemblance to James Garner. (It doesn't hurt my appreciation of his work on Joss' shows, but then Angel himself ranging from something of a jackass to a terrifying sadistic killer never bothered me.)

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