Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


flea - Mar 11, 2017 2:07:08 pm PST #10200 of 10457
information libertarian

"Xander is not hot, he's annoying! Buffy, what are you doing?"


-t - Mar 11, 2017 2:19:19 pm PST #10201 of 10457
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Casper commentary, so wise.


flea - Mar 11, 2017 3:23:48 pm PST #10202 of 10457
information libertarian

Casper: "Is that Spike?"
Me: "Yes."
Casper: "Oooooooh! Oh my god!" ... "Does Cordelia end up with Spike?"

"Spike! Oh goodness! The ultimate bad boy! See, Angel is the good boy - look at his name. Spike is the bad boy."


sumi - Mar 11, 2017 6:07:45 pm PST #10203 of 10457
Art Crawl!!!

20 years since the beginning of Buffy means 20 years since my mother died. And since she died at the end of January 1997 - she never lived during the Buffy era.

Even though I came to it late, I attribute some of my obsession for the show on it coming while I was still processing my mother's death.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 11, 2017 10:19:48 pm PST #10204 of 10457
What is even happening?

Cindy, that was very cool! But because I'm one of us I have to nitpick: It's "wanna-blessed-be".

Thank you and thanks for the heads up, chris (corrected).


beth b - Mar 12, 2017 8:02:57 am PDT #10205 of 10457
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Angel is the goo boy...


Fred Pete - Mar 13, 2017 5:16:15 am PDT #10206 of 10457
Ann, that's a ferret.

did no one say Double Meat Palace for worst ep?

I don't have the energy to search through all the threads, but I've said so. And still believe so. That stretch of S6 was pretty hard watching.


Laura - Mar 13, 2017 5:38:20 am PDT #10207 of 10457
Our wings are not tired.

did no one say Double Meat Palace for worst ep?

Yes, I can remember us watching real time and looking forward to new episodes, and then the disappointment and lack of satisfaction. Sigh.


sumi - Mar 13, 2017 9:28:14 am PDT #10208 of 10457
Art Crawl!!!

Oh yeah: it was first after a hiatus wasn't it?

It's like they really wanted us to FEEL the gray period Buffy was in.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 13, 2017 12:48:38 pm PDT #10209 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

In retrospect I think a lot of Season 6 was technically well-written, but it was such an unpleasant slog to actually go through. Bleak and dark movies have more latitude because they're over in two hours; watching your lead character sink further into depression over the course of weeks is very off-putting.