No, it's shiny! I like to meet new people. They've all got stories...

Kaylee ,'Serenity'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Jessica - Dec 01, 2016 1:56:31 pm PST #10134 of 10457
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

S6 rewatch update:

Magic-is-drugs, still terrible. And now I'm mad all over again about what a strong arc this was when it started out and how quickly it went from scary to laughable when the writers started lazily copy-pasting in "spell" where they wanted to write "crack pipe". THAT IS NOT HOW METAPHORS WORK, WRITERS, GO BACK AND WATCH S1-3. OKAY SO THE PACK WAS A LITTLE ON THE NOSE BUT STILL YOU'LL SEE WHAT I MEAN. (I mean ARGH you have the groundwork all laid out, Willow has been using magic to escape her feelings for YEARS, and it's not surprising that it would get out of hand in an addictive way, but ARGHHHHHHH.)


Connie Neil - Dec 01, 2016 1:57:09 pm PST #10135 of 10457
brillig

But she became White Willow in the end, and the magic was good again!


Jessica - Dec 01, 2016 2:04:53 pm PST #10136 of 10457
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

See, I don't even mind the notion that some kinds of magic are good and some are harmful (and Willow is TOTALLY the kind of arrogant utilitarian who would dismiss that as ridiculous and use dark magic because it's easier and more powerful).

But instead of trusting the audience to understand that, we got slurred stumbling and giggling about dude I scored such a great spell last night, and Amy sneaking into Buffy's house to steal sage and ACTUAL CAR CRASH.


DavidS - Dec 01, 2016 2:30:34 pm PST #10137 of 10457
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

As I recall from reports from our source inside the writer's room (coughSCRAPPYcough) a lot of the writing staff was in recovery so the addiction metaphor was a little too easy for them to reach for.

But I concur, JessiMoon, they blew a character arc which could have stood next to Wesley's story.


Steph L. - Dec 01, 2016 2:41:46 pm PST #10138 of 10457
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

ACTUAL CAR CRASH.

Man, I totally forgot the actual car crash.


brenda m - Dec 01, 2016 3:50:02 pm PST #10139 of 10457
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think you mean ACTUAL CAR CRASH!!11!


DavidS - Dec 01, 2016 7:47:31 pm PST #10140 of 10457
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think Trudy initiated the Trademark on Actual Car Crashâ„¢.


Calli - Dec 08, 2016 1:58:28 am PST #10141 of 10457
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I never got the whole stealing sage thing. I'm pretty sure it grows natively in S. CA. Just go to an abandoned lot with a pair of clippers.

ETA: Which is the least of the arc's problems, I know. But as a would-be gardener, it bugs.


billytea - Dec 08, 2016 2:42:35 am PST #10142 of 10457
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I never got the whole stealing sage thing. I'm pretty sure it grows natively in S. CA. Just go to an abandoned lot with a pair of clippers.

The arc would have been markedly improved if you'd been there to give them your sage advice.


Jessica - Dec 08, 2016 3:41:36 am PST #10143 of 10457
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Best thing about binge-watching the whole series? Not having to wait 6 years for XANDER LIES to come back around.

(Also, S6 improves dramatically on binge-rewatch. There are still individual terrible eps - OH HAI Wrecked - but the emotional highs and lows make a lot more sense consumed all at once.)