I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


beth b - Oct 22, 2016 2:44:33 pm PDT #10057 of 10457
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I figure it is stunted emotional growth.

He was not the greatest human being, a truely horrific vampire, got a soul, felt guilt and now needs to grow up. he really isn't much older than a teenage boy.


Connie Neil - Oct 22, 2016 2:45:48 pm PDT #10058 of 10457
brillig

(The emotional maturity part, not the density part.)

Well, it is Angel, dense is a given.


erin_obscure - Oct 22, 2016 3:23:32 pm PDT #10059 of 10457
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

Well, the shelf life on Slayers is not a long one, so perhaps he was concerned that waiting for her to mature any further would be fatal to her...or Joss was concealing his pedo tendencies.


Jessica - Oct 22, 2016 4:07:52 pm PDT #10060 of 10457
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I remain 50/50 skeptical/horrified that a 240-year-old vampire would want to date a high schooler.

The line from Let The Right One In, "I'm twelve, but I've been twelve a long time" rings true to me in this case - Angel's been around for 240 years, but he's also still more or less the age he was when he died. (Early 20s, we're supposed to be thinking, probably?) Plus, back in his day, 16 year-old girls were marriage material, so.

(IT'S STILL TOTALLY SKEEVY BUT I JUST FINISHED WATCHING GRADUATION DAY AND I MISS THEM ALREADY)

I'm trying to decide if I'm going to start rewatching Angel to keep pace, now that I'm up to S4.


Jesse - Oct 22, 2016 5:43:35 pm PDT #10061 of 10457
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, OK! I will keep loving them.


Jesse - Oct 23, 2016 2:27:23 pm PDT #10062 of 10457
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"Nightmares" - is this our first William?


quester - Oct 23, 2016 4:51:11 pm PDT #10063 of 10457
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Ok, you guys got me. I just watched the first 2 episodes again for the first time since the first run.

Giles "The Earth is doomed" was the last line of part 2.

Jesse came and went and Angel did nothing but act broody.


SuziQ - Oct 23, 2016 6:26:42 pm PDT #10064 of 10457
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I just finished a full rewatch of Buffy and have started on Angel. I'm pretty sure this was my first rewatch of Season 7 since it aired.


flea - Oct 24, 2016 1:05:44 am PDT #10065 of 10457
information libertarian

Just a heads up - we didn't watch this weekend because of a bunch of social obligations. So next weekend we're doing S1E5-6.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 24, 2016 1:59:42 am PDT #10066 of 10457
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought the broodiness came later, and in the premiere Angel was kind of sarcastic?