Henry was presented from the beginning as The Guy Who Knows How To Do Everything, whereas Walter was presented specifically as a quantum physicist, and the cloning thing was kind of tacked on at the last minute.
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Jessica - Jul 28, 2006 4:21:12 am PDT #9607 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Vortex - Jul 28, 2006 6:31:44 am PDT #9608 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
In this episode it was discovered he also managed to perfectly clone his wife, complete with memories (but without the desire to leave him, apparently.)
I see that more as a Robert Frost issue. Susan #2 (or #1) decided to leave, but I got the impression that it was not an easy decision for her, it could have gone either way. Walter just created Susan #1 and said "hey, we're moving to eureka", which is something that there was a strong possibility that she would have done anyway.
Kalshane - Jul 28, 2006 6:59:06 am PDT #9609 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I see that more as a Robert Frost issue. Susan #2 (or #1) decided to leave, but I got the impression that it was not an easy decision for her, it could have gone either way. Walter just created Susan #1 and said "hey, we're moving to eureka", which is something that there was a strong possibility that she would have done anyway.
Still, I doubt he would go through all the trouble of cloning her just to risk her saying "No, I don't want to move to Eureka" again.
Though that could be a somewhat frightening possibility. Maybe there are multiple Susans running around that all decided they didn't want to move to Eureka.
DXMachina - Jul 28, 2006 7:08:08 am PDT #9610 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Well, they would've stayed once they saw their dream house made reality. I mean, that's what seems to be the real reason Susan #1 is staying. It's the only explanation I can come up with for her change of heart with regards to Brian. (Hey, hug the kid once in awhile and get a free house.)
§ ita § - Jul 28, 2006 7:10:25 am PDT #9611 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'd have been down with "this kid needs a mother and I'm his best shot and man, he does look like he's mi...dammit! I already hugged him! Now it's too late!"
Or something a wee bit less simplistic. But finding out that she'd been happy with this choice, plus was needed, plus wasn't giving up anything major on the outside, plus seeing the man she loved...not inconsiderable.
Also, not depicted.
DXMachina - Jul 28, 2006 9:42:25 am PDT #9612 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Also, not depicted.
Aye. There's the rub.
Liese S. - Jul 28, 2006 3:42:01 pm PDT #9613 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Just saw the replay on SciFi. It's the first ep I've seen, and I liked it. I am easy, when it comes to television, so I'm not necessarily a good barometer, but I did enjoy it.
I did not, however, figure out that the ghost was Walter, seeing as I'd never seen Walter. So there was me, and everyone on the show. Oh, and I was a little puzzled at the lurkity of what I presume now is evil-shrink-lady.
Also?
Indiana?!?
We have baseball in Indiana, dammit! We have one of the finest (okay, admittedly minor-league) fields around. But still. Harumph.
Anyway, I liked it, I liked Colin, I liked several of the characters, I think I liked the premise, although it was not altogether clear just from this episode alone, and I'll give it a shot.
Now, about this episode, specifically, that lady made a crazy bad call and I kind of hate it. I have my whole own life, I left the man I married, I walked away from my hopes and dreams of a perfect little house and family, and I've been on my own for years. I get a crazy hysterical call, I turn up in a whacky town that subjects me to scanning alongside the corpse of cloned me who has been living with my ex and their son in my dream house. And I'm supposed to walk away from everything I've been living for the past decade to pretend to be the mother of an orphan and the wife of a staticky ball of electricity? That's all kinds of wrong. And I mean in gender roles ways, and I mean in personal life decisions ways, and I hope it plays out in future episodes.
DebetEsse - Jul 28, 2006 3:45:37 pm PDT #9614 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Anybody watching Night Stalker?
Ailleann - Jul 28, 2006 4:16:18 pm PDT #9615 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
It's 15 minutes in to SG-1, and I've Cackled Like A Loon at least six times.
So... where do they keep getting Stargates to throw around?
Jessica - Jul 28, 2006 7:05:43 pm PDT #9616 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
And I'm supposed to walk away from everything I've been living for the past decade to pretend to be the mother of an orphan and the wife of a staticky ball of electricity? That's all kinds of wrong.
Did she actually say she was going to stay? It was implied that she had a change of heart about the kid, but I never read it as set in stone that she was going to stay and be that Susan Perkins from now on. That would just be sloppy writing.
(Also, does Walter even know that the other version died and that the one standing outside the big ball o'static is the original who left him? We never got a scene where they explicitly filled him in on what was going on while he was mostly dead.)