Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Laura - Jul 27, 2006 6:02:43 pm PDT #9599 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Walter wasn't my favorite. I'll have to see how he comes back. He was kinda wrong, so maybe he'll come back right.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2006 6:53:24 pm PDT #9600 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Whoops. Walter is a scientist. My bad. I inserted Henry into that. What did they have Walter doing that wasn't appropriate?


Kalshane - Jul 27, 2006 7:22:56 pm PDT #9601 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

In the pilot Walter was IDed as a Quantum Physicist and made a big, nasty quantum device. In this episode it was discovered he also managed to perfectly clone his wife, complete with memories (but without the desire to leave him, apparently.)

It made me scratch my head a bit too. On the other hand, Henry's apparent ability to do everything from space shuttles to car repair to funerals to grave digging to spelling "corporeal" just strikes me as amusing, so I'm apparently fickle.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2006 7:27:49 pm PDT #9602 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's going to happen a lot. I mean, it already does, on almost every show with big brains. This one, all about the big brains, but with a limited number of characters? Exponential cross-training.

I am curious to know about the non-brains in Eureka. How did the cops get there? Is Allison a brain?


Cass - Jul 27, 2006 8:52:30 pm PDT #9603 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

That's going to happen a lot. I mean, it already does, on almost every show with big brains.
It does. And yet it still annoys me when I notice it. But I do try to handwave and ignore it in the hopes of being charmed by some other element of the show in question.


WindSparrow - Jul 28, 2006 3:56:33 am PDT #9604 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I adore Henry. His abilty to dip his hand into whatever he darn well pleases pings me as only a slight, and amusing, exageration of the characters of all (two) of the NASA types I know. The physicist retired a few years ago, and is spending his golden years teaching himself how to play the cello, and learning how to make violins, among other interests. The engineer joined the Navy primarily because no one else would hire someone as young as she (not quite as young as Doogie Hauser, M.D.). She can not only spell corporeal in klingon, but she can, has, and will in the future, design and sew Star Fleet uniforms upon request. She also has a number of excellent insights in various spiritual concepts - and her version of "people are energy, when they die, the energy has to go somewhere" is much more detailed and personal.


Laura - Jul 28, 2006 4:13:11 am PDT #9605 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I'm fickle too. I will be happy to find that Henry is an expert chef, and sailor too. For some reason Walter bugged me. He may redeem himself. I'm still open for that option.

I think they are all big brains. The reason Jack got to stay was because he found the kid when they couldn't. Sign of big brain.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2006 4:19:02 am PDT #9606 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was thinking of big brain in the educated papered type. It's possible that they recruited the best of the best from the lawkeeping world for the town, but it doesn't seem so.


Jessica - Jul 28, 2006 4:21:12 am PDT #9607 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Henry was presented from the beginning as The Guy Who Knows How To Do Everything, whereas Walter was presented specifically as a quantum physicist, and the cloning thing was kind of tacked on at the last minute.


Vortex - Jul 28, 2006 6:31:44 am PDT #9608 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

In this episode it was discovered he also managed to perfectly clone his wife, complete with memories (but without the desire to leave him, apparently.)

I see that more as a Robert Frost issue. Susan #2 (or #1) decided to leave, but I got the impression that it was not an easy decision for her, it could have gone either way. Walter just created Susan #1 and said "hey, we're moving to eureka", which is something that there was a strong possibility that she would have done anyway.