Who was the real power? The Captain? or Tenille?

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Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - May 15, 2006 8:20:50 am PDT #8661 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, Matt, were you disappointed that you were TOTALLY RIGHT?

I loved the nanogenes resolution because it made so much fucking sense, and it came from a throwaway bit of sci-fi dressing that you wouldn't think would be relevant to the main plot.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 15, 2006 9:29:58 am PDT #8662 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, somewhat, since I think it would have lived up to the first half of the story better if we'd not found out what was going on. I feared that would turn out to be the explanation the instant the nanogenes made their appearance in Captain Jack's ship and gave me flashbacks to that DS9 show about Kai Opaka having to stay on the war-torn planet where nannites made everyone immortal.

I'm still skeptical about nannites being able to let the Child hear people through unplugged radios and manipulate a 1940s era mechanical typewriter from afar, nevermind raising him from the dead. If that's technologically possible, why weren't the Time Lords making use of the method to bring back citizens that had used up their 12th regenerations?


Theodosia - May 15, 2006 10:01:22 am PDT #8663 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Maybe they weren't really, sincerely, dead yet?


Tom Scola - May 15, 2006 10:16:56 am PDT #8664 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

why weren't the Time Lords making use of the method to bring back citizens that had used up their 12th regenerations?

The case could be made that the 12 regeneration limit was something proscribed by Gallifrean law, and not a hard limit. In "The Five Doctors" the high council promised the Master new regenerations if he helped the Doctor.


Polter-Cow - May 15, 2006 11:06:31 am PDT #8665 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Maybe they weren't really, sincerely, dead yet?

They were only mostly dead.


Betsy HP - May 15, 2006 12:03:52 pm PDT #8666 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

The science on Doctor Who is never anything resembling our Earth-science. Just wave your hands. (Or "repeat to yourself, 'This is just a show, I should really just relax.'")

Incidentally, there's a cut line setting this up in the script. The Doctor says that when he was a little kid he figured out how to communicate with nanites. Rose replies, "There are so many ways to say, 'I had a lonely childhood.'"


sumi - May 15, 2006 3:43:48 pm PDT #8667 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, are you Season Two Who-watchers aware of TWOP's "You Lucky Bastards" season two thread?

It's in the Who forum under "General Gabbery".


Frankenbuddha - May 16, 2006 4:50:37 am PDT #8668 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Everybody lives, Rose! Just this once, everybody lives!!"

Loved this. LOVED IT! The whole episode. I wish I'd taped the EMPTY CHILD now, but this IS a keeper episode (at least until US DVDs arrive).


WindSparrow - May 16, 2006 5:03:57 am PDT #8669 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Loved this. LOVED IT! The whole episode. I wish I'd taped the EMPTY CHILD now, but this IS a keeper episode (at least until US DVDs arrive).

We've watched The Doctor Dances at least half a dozen times, I luv the ep with an unreasoning love.


Calli - May 16, 2006 9:31:49 am PDT #8670 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I've been rewatching "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances" as well. They may be my favorite Dr. Who episodes yet.