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§ ita § - Apr 06, 2005 11:57:07 am PDT #834 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

could we see what people died because Tru prevented the deaths of other people?

In my head, balance is intrinsic to the genre (Quantum Leap is about restoring it, right? Most time travel stories have the Butterfly Effect paranoia written right in...) and they mention it once, from the mouth of the bad guy, all season.

Hrmmph.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 06, 2005 12:05:04 pm PDT #835 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh! that reminds me, I saw an article somewhere about an upcoming movie based on Ray Bradbury's time travel short story "A Sound of Thunder." Apparently it goes further in terms of the changes wrought by interference in the past, with history getting rewritten to disastrous effect each time someone meddles.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 12:08:17 pm PDT #836 of 10001
Visilurking

Is that the one where they all have to stay on the "path" when they sight-see in the past?


tommyrot - Apr 06, 2005 12:10:34 pm PDT #837 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is that the one where they all have to stay on the "path" when they sight-see in the past?

Yes. And a moth gets killed....

eta: Actually, they go hunting. They shoot dinos that were about to snuff it anyway.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 12:12:12 pm PDT #838 of 10001
Visilurking

That story is what good sci-fi is all about. Simple, direct, mind-blowing.


sumi - Apr 06, 2005 12:24:08 pm PDT #839 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Maybe, what they aren't showing is Jack, going around killing people who are supposed to die but who somehow have lived.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 12:24:38 pm PDT #840 of 10001
Visilurking

Then he'd kill Tru's brother, wouldn't he?


sumi - Apr 06, 2005 12:27:10 pm PDT #841 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Maybe -- except that Tru's brother did die. . . . but (apparently) wasn't supposed to. Otherwise he wouldn't have spoken to Tru.

ARgh. It just doesn't make sense.


Vortex - Apr 07, 2005 7:06:03 am PDT #842 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

they talk about how he has to "preserve fate". my question is, if the person was meant to die, can't they die tomorrow? I mean, so she saves harbor patrol chick. why can't jack just have her die next week? she's still dead.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2005 7:07:01 am PDT #843 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because she may do things in the interim she wasn't supposed to do. Everyone's going to die anyway, right? If them dying later was good enough, he wouldn't have a job.