Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.

Buffy ,'Beneath You'


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A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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sumi - Apr 06, 2005 10:39:11 am PDT #828 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that Jack also gets a message from the dead -- I'm just not sure what the message is.

(It would be nice if we could have an episode entirely from his POV.)

Last season: Harry dies. And speaks to Tru. Because she manages to save Harry, the boyfriend is killed. He doesn't come back.


sumi - Apr 06, 2005 10:39:50 am PDT #829 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Also, given that not all of the dead speak to Tru -- what is it about the ones that do, that enable them to speak to her?


-t - Apr 06, 2005 10:55:24 am PDT #830 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

See, until Priestley appeared, she was just doing what she was asked to. The question didn't come up until he posed it, and like Vortex, I feel they've answered it too patly.

Well, sure, if you stick with what's actually aired instead of what I wanted to be there. I can't say I'm terribly happy with how they've handled the conflict now that it's there, I just feel like it's got more potential to be closer to what I wanted it to be all along.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 11:24:52 am PDT #831 of 10001
Visilurking

Last season: Harry dies. And speaks to Tru. Because she manages to save Harry, the boyfriend is killed. He doesn't come back.

So how was Jack responsible exactly?


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2005 11:27:07 am PDT #832 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Jack was trying to prevent her from saving Harry, I think, but explains to her that a balance must be kept.

If he weren't so annoying, I'd be on his side.


sumi - Apr 06, 2005 11:55:01 am PDT #833 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

The problem with the balance idea is that I don't think that they've followed through with it -- could we see what people died because Tru prevented the deaths of other people?


§ ita § - Apr 06, 2005 11:57:07 am PDT #834 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

could we see what people died because Tru prevented the deaths of other people?

In my head, balance is intrinsic to the genre (Quantum Leap is about restoring it, right? Most time travel stories have the Butterfly Effect paranoia written right in...) and they mention it once, from the mouth of the bad guy, all season.

Hrmmph.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 06, 2005 12:05:04 pm PDT #835 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh! that reminds me, I saw an article somewhere about an upcoming movie based on Ray Bradbury's time travel short story "A Sound of Thunder." Apparently it goes further in terms of the changes wrought by interference in the past, with history getting rewritten to disastrous effect each time someone meddles.


Wolfram - Apr 06, 2005 12:08:17 pm PDT #836 of 10001
Visilurking

Is that the one where they all have to stay on the "path" when they sight-see in the past?


tommyrot - Apr 06, 2005 12:10:34 pm PDT #837 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is that the one where they all have to stay on the "path" when they sight-see in the past?

Yes. And a moth gets killed....

eta: Actually, they go hunting. They shoot dinos that were about to snuff it anyway.