Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable.

'Dirty Girls'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


WindSparrow - Mar 20, 2006 9:13:54 am PST #7853 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Conflation of ep names - we've got The Unquiet Dead set in Victorian Wales, and the serious creep offset by much WW2-Flyboy cuteness of The Empty Child.

Edited due to very vague possibly spoileriness.


Jars - Mar 20, 2006 9:21:14 am PST #7854 of 10001

I love the new Doctor Who, but I do still feel that it's very much a kids' show. I don't mean that in a patronising way at all, but I do think I enjoy it more when I come at it from that angle.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2006 9:35:35 am PST #7855 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I don't think I'd have wanted to expose my kids to the hollowed-out people or the very realistic decaying corpses in this edition. The scary bits of this are quite scary indeed. Scarier than much of Buffy, IMHO. (Not as scary as "Hush" or "The Body", of course.)


Jars - Mar 20, 2006 9:40:00 am PST #7856 of 10001

I think it would have scared the ever-loving crap out of me when I was a kid, but I liked having the crap scared out of me when I was a kid. Plus all I ever hear about the originals is how people used to watch it when they were kids and it scared the bejesus out of them. Hiding behind the couch from the Daleks and stuff.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2006 9:40:47 am PST #7857 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Yeah. My problem is that I first encountered the Tom Baker Who when I was over 18, so was amused by the effects rather than scared.

This Doctor is pretty scary himself. Whoo, boy.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2006 9:41:16 am PST #7858 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think #9 is creepy as well as scary. The old Doctors were less on the creepy stuff. More "Boo!" and less steal under your skin and leak out when you're not expecting it.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2006 9:49:08 am PST #7859 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Aha! You pegged it. For me, scary is "Will our heroes survive?" Creepy is "Gah. I won't be getting that image out of my head for weeks." The ninth Doctor is *way* creepy.

Furthermore, Rose's mother explicitly asks the Doctor to promise he will keep Rose safe, and he is silent. Later, he admits to Rose that he cannot promise to keep her safe.


Jars - Mar 20, 2006 9:51:19 am PST #7860 of 10001

I'm really hoping that Torchwood will amp up the creep factor. The tenth doctor already looks like he might not be as black and white as even the ninth. Which I like quite a bit.


Nutty - Mar 20, 2006 9:55:30 am PST #7861 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I saw a Tom Baker Doctor episode when I was probably 8, and it scared the everliving daylights out of me. So much so, I have never seen a Doctor Who episode all the way through since.

(It was the invisible monsters that strangled people. Monsters I can see, okay, whatever, but invisible monsters? That is just a paranoid child's worst nightmare!! )


askye - Mar 20, 2006 10:17:32 am PST #7862 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Nutty I think I know which episode you are talking about.

I never remember being really scared by Dr. Who...maybe a little creeped out. The only kid's show that ever freaked me out was the Bloodhound Gang on 3-2-1 Contact. I can't even remember the episode, just that I had to go through the dining room to get to the kicthen and the dining room was dark and creepy (of course I as about 6 at the time).