But Adama/Roslin were doing the right thing.

I don't know. On the one hand, stealing the election would have been a huge moral error, but on the other hand, the attitude of "Fuck humanity, they elected him and now they have to live with it" seems unbelieveably selfish and petty in light of how they've been running society up until that point.

I mean, 10,000 people died in the year they were on New Caprica

I think most of those died in the nuclear blast.

So... you all liked it?

Not all of us. I thought the whole night was pretty disappointing.

I forgot about the nuclear blast.

the attitude of "Fuck humanity, they elected him and now they have to live with it"

I don't think this was their feeling at all. I thought Adama's whole "we would be criminals, even if unindicted" and "the cancer will eat your heart" made it seem like his concern was with choosing the honest option, even if it might have bad results. The only way I think that it is selfish would be to say that Adama was unwilling to live with the guilt of rigging an election in order to protect humanity from Baltar (and I never like that argument in pretty much any circumstance).

It seemed like 10 gallons stuffed into a 2-gallon hat, which meant a lot of texture got left out. Sort of like reading the headlines of a newspaper, without actually reading any of the articles.

Yep, that's how I felt too. As I said in my post, I felt like we were being told a story rather than watching it. Which I read now and think may be hypocritical given my proclaimed love of storytelling, but I think there's a distinction between storytelling and being told a story. More summary than scene is what it was.

The generally positive reaction is making me see things in a little better light, in that I'm at least cautiously interested in where they're going with this, rather than, "WTF? Whatever."

I also agree with Nutty in that the Alias time jump was handled better (at least in the cliffhanger sense). With that, stories were coming to a close anyway, so a time jump didn't necessarily kill potential. Here, it's like we were denied a significant amount of material.

I was thinking last night that rather than make the jump so abrupt, they could have done what they did at the end of "Scar." A catch-up montage of material we hadn't already seen. Kind of like the previouslies!

I was thinking last night that rather than make the jump so abrupt, they could have done what they did at the end of "Scar." A catch-up montage of material we hadn't already seen. Kind of like the previouslies!

The one thing that was useful about the podcast is that it drove the point home (at least for me) the severe budget constraints they were under. So there was a lot of crap I wish I would have seen, but I just don't think they had the budget for it.

P-C, can you shoot me a link to your LJ? I would love to read it.

Here you go. Click on the BSG tag to read all my previous BSG posts as well.

I loved it. I don't think we were told a story - I think we were hint at the story to be. Honestly, I couldn't have watched the disinigration of the colonies over weeks - that would have been way too painful.

Adama and the choice. I think Adama has really taken the question " does humanity deserve to survive" to heart. What makes us worth being. I think with his military background, and the general religious background of the colonies - Truth/ honor , etc. are very important parts of humane humanity - the good parts in us.

I'm with beth--I think that they've done an excellent job of leaving us plenty of backstory to investigate next season, between what exactly happened between Lee and Kara to sever their ties to each other, what drove Tyrol (btw, did he look yummy in that full beard and glasses, or what!) to become a union leader, what got Kara and Tigh so huggy...oh, so many things I want to learn!

Holy FUCK, that was brave.

I think Adama was standing up for a principle. If we steal elections we are no longer on the side of right. There has to be some line beyond which you will not go, or you can't honestly say you have a system of ethics. Note Laura's utter relief when she decides not to steal the election.

Is it Philip Marlowe who says that if you live outside the law, you have to be honest? Well, Laura and Bill have been living on the ragged edge of the law for a long time, and they finally found the thing they could not do.

Is it Philip Marlowe who says that if you live outside the law, you have to be honest?

I don't know about Marlowe, but Bob Dylan certainly did.