Let's hope there are no Cylons 61 light-years from Earth....

If there are, let's hope they pause for a jump stage 26 light years out and Galactica 1980 terrifies them into fleeing forever.

The one thing I didn't get is why Starbuck just let that Dean Stockwell cylon show up and it didn't raise any eyebrows.

I think he must have been with Anders' group all along, so Sharon was the only one who could have known he was a Cylon. (I don't see how they could have avoided Starbuck or Helo or any of the other pilots running into the other one of Galactica, but apparently they did.)

I love crazy President Baltar. I mean, I spent the last half hour of the show saying "THIS IS SUCH A BAD IDEA" to the screen (mostly Adama and Roslin), but wow, I had no idea how much.

It occured to me for the first time last night after the ep that there are 12 colonies and 12 Cylon models. [eta: because really, I'm not very bright most of the time] I wonder if they map to each other in any useful way. (So far I'm stuck on Six/Gemini. We just don't know enough about the rest of the colonies.)

I loved it - seriously. I saw in his LJ that P-C hated it and I was shocked. BUt Moore said on his podcast that people either love it or hate it.

eta: I'm still stuck on the ends v. means thing. I mean, it was such a bad idea to let Baltar win, but they were doing the right thing! Crazy! I like TV that can make me think this much. I"m not sure what the right thing was there. I mean, 10,000 people died in the year they were on New Caprica and now the remnant of humanity is under cylon control. But Adama/Roslin were doing the right thing.

Any insight into the Cylon's plan? Why let Starbuck and friends off Caprica? Was the "truce" just a farse?

BTW, I didn't LOVE it. I didn't HATE it either. I do wonder what next season will be like.

But Adama/Roslin were doing the right thing.

I don't know. On the one hand, stealing the election would have been a huge moral error, but on the other hand, the attitude of "Fuck humanity, they elected him and now they have to live with it" seems unbelieveably selfish and petty in light of how they've been running society up until that point.

I mean, 10,000 people died in the year they were on New Caprica

I think most of those died in the nuclear blast.

So... you all liked it?

Not all of us. I thought the whole night was pretty disappointing.

I forgot about the nuclear blast.

the attitude of "Fuck humanity, they elected him and now they have to live with it"

I don't think this was their feeling at all. I thought Adama's whole "we would be criminals, even if unindicted" and "the cancer will eat your heart" made it seem like his concern was with choosing the honest option, even if it might have bad results. The only way I think that it is selfish would be to say that Adama was unwilling to live with the guilt of rigging an election in order to protect humanity from Baltar (and I never like that argument in pretty much any circumstance).

It seemed like 10 gallons stuffed into a 2-gallon hat, which meant a lot of texture got left out. Sort of like reading the headlines of a newspaper, without actually reading any of the articles.

Yep, that's how I felt too. As I said in my post, I felt like we were being told a story rather than watching it. Which I read now and think may be hypocritical given my proclaimed love of storytelling, but I think there's a distinction between storytelling and being told a story. More summary than scene is what it was.

The generally positive reaction is making me see things in a little better light, in that I'm at least cautiously interested in where they're going with this, rather than, "WTF? Whatever."

I also agree with Nutty in that the Alias time jump was handled better (at least in the cliffhanger sense). With that, stories were coming to a close anyway, so a time jump didn't necessarily kill potential. Here, it's like we were denied a significant amount of material.

I was thinking last night that rather than make the jump so abrupt, they could have done what they did at the end of "Scar." A catch-up montage of material we hadn't already seen. Kind of like the previouslies!

I was thinking last night that rather than make the jump so abrupt, they could have done what they did at the end of "Scar." A catch-up montage of material we hadn't already seen. Kind of like the previouslies!

The one thing that was useful about the podcast is that it drove the point home (at least for me) the severe budget constraints they were under. So there was a lot of crap I wish I would have seen, but I just don't think they had the budget for it.

P-C, can you shoot me a link to your LJ? I would love to read it.