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Stephanie - Mar 11, 2006 3:44:06 am PST #7650 of 10001
Trust my rage

[cross-post with LJ]

I really liked it. The one thing I didn't get is why Starbuck just let that Dean Stockwell cylon show up and it didn't raise any eyebrows. Other than that, I'm really looking forward to October. (October! Why do we have to wait that long??)

I like that Roslin is back to teaching kids and that she is watching over the cylon baby. Did Maya call her Isis? Anyway, it's a very Moses story. Maybe the Cylon baby will lead the humans to the promised land.

The element to the story I liked the most is that Adama/Roslin made the right choice, but it was so wrong! I'm curious what the "right" thinking would have been in that situation. Do you steal an election for the greater moral good?

Oh, and I loved that Gina was a true Cylon to the end. I mean, here we have Gaius, who has screwed/betrayed humanity twice now and he was dumb enough to believe, both times, that Six/Gina loved him when she was really just playing him. (I guess she loved him AND was playing him. Even better.) I thought they did a nice job of telling that story twice without making it seem like it had already been done.

I suppose Sharon is still on Galactica, but that's something I'm looking forward to seeing. Also, I'm wondering what Zarek is now up too. I'm surprised he wasn't with Chief. I think there are lots of cool possibilities for next season.


le nubian - Mar 11, 2006 5:25:35 am PST #7651 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

It doesn't seem like the 12 colonies have a solid set of rules for impeachment. Gaius was doing some madness of King George shit and you'd think that his VP would be leading some counter strategy to get better leadership of the Colonies.

It is somewhat surprising to me that no one seemed to mention the effect of setting off a nuclear device. Do we know how many people were killed?

Given how much populace agitation there was while Roslin was in office, I'm surprised that more people in the know didn't try to launch a information campaign to figure out if moving to the planet was the right way to go.


tommyrot - Mar 11, 2006 5:32:37 am PST #7652 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It is somewhat surprising to me that no one seemed to mention the effect of setting off a nuclear device. Do we know how many people were killed?

Well, Adama had the investigation, and Baltar was crying as he talked about putting the "terrible tragedy behind them" or something, and then the show immediatly jumped a year into the future.

So many smart little touches. I like how the Cylons found them a year after the nuclear blast, and they were a light-year away when they detected the radiation of the detonation.

Let's hope there are no Cylons 61 light-years from Earth....


Stephanie - Mar 11, 2006 5:56:25 am PST #7653 of 10001
Trust my rage

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some impeqachment stuff afoot, but we may just not have seen it yet. Perhaps the populace is deeply divided between impeaching Gaius and heading back into space and staying ton the planet and making it better.


le nubian - Mar 11, 2006 6:00:44 am PST #7654 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

FWIW, the podcast for this episode becomes increasingly less useful (at least to me) the more scotch that is consumed during the podcast. The first 30 minutes are interesting, but after that...eh.


Stephanie - Mar 11, 2006 6:05:54 am PST #7655 of 10001
Trust my rage

that's too bad to hear - i'm about 15 minutes in and i just paused it to chat with my brother. i was hoping Moore's wife would make a reappearance.


Nutty - Mar 11, 2006 6:08:28 am PST #7656 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So... you all liked it? I and the people I was sitting with all thought BSG was lame. Alias did it better, and with, okay, I won't say fewer holes, but it skipped over the holes with elan.

It seemed like 10 gallons stuffed into a 2-gallon hat, which meant a lot of texture got left out. Sort of like reading the headlines of a newspaper, without actually reading any of the articles.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 11, 2006 6:09:23 am PST #7657 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Let's hope there are no Cylons 61 light-years from Earth....

If there are, let's hope they pause for a jump stage 26 light years out and Galactica 1980 terrifies them into fleeing forever.


Jessica - Mar 11, 2006 6:13:19 am PST #7658 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The one thing I didn't get is why Starbuck just let that Dean Stockwell cylon show up and it didn't raise any eyebrows.

I think he must have been with Anders' group all along, so Sharon was the only one who could have known he was a Cylon. (I don't see how they could have avoided Starbuck or Helo or any of the other pilots running into the other one of Galactica, but apparently they did.)

I love crazy President Baltar. I mean, I spent the last half hour of the show saying "THIS IS SUCH A BAD IDEA" to the screen (mostly Adama and Roslin), but wow, I had no idea how much.

It occured to me for the first time last night after the ep that there are 12 colonies and 12 Cylon models. [eta: because really, I'm not very bright most of the time] I wonder if they map to each other in any useful way. (So far I'm stuck on Six/Gemini. We just don't know enough about the rest of the colonies.)


Stephanie - Mar 11, 2006 6:13:22 am PST #7659 of 10001
Trust my rage

I loved it - seriously. I saw in his LJ that P-C hated it and I was shocked. BUt Moore said on his podcast that people either love it or hate it.

eta: I'm still stuck on the ends v. means thing. I mean, it was such a bad idea to let Baltar win, but they were doing the right thing! Crazy! I like TV that can make me think this much. I"m not sure what the right thing was there. I mean, 10,000 people died in the year they were on New Caprica and now the remnant of humanity is under cylon control. But Adama/Roslin were doing the right thing.