Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


§ ita § - Apr 01, 2005 8:29:09 am PST #730 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

By universe design, you don't mean internal logical consistency, do you?


Nutty - Apr 01, 2005 8:29:52 am PST #731 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Sometimes to the detriment of the plot.

True, true. Then again, what plot wouldn't you sacrifice for armies of tight-butted young things all dressed in black leather?


Nutty - Apr 01, 2005 8:34:00 am PST #732 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

By universe design, you don't mean internal logical consistency, do you?

No. I mean cool ideas put on the screen, like aliens that really look alien (or like Skeksis) and not like people with bumpy foreheads. Moya is a very different spaceship from any I'd seen on TV or in movies to that point. Finding out Zhaan was a plant (and not till quite a ways along in the series). That planet where, to make everything alien-like, they just tinted the film stock so all the green leaves were blue.

So, yes, no internal consistency -- that is decidedly a Farscape weakness. Actually, my love of the show began in the premiere, when Crichton needed to do math and had no scratch paper: he flopped to the floor and did his math there. Probably something someone would really do in life, in a pinch; but you don't see it on TV much.


Betsy HP - Apr 01, 2005 8:35:42 am PST #733 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

what plot wouldn't you sacrifice for armies of tight-butted young things all dressed in black leather?

In a distant future where everybody shops on Folsom Street...


Sean K - Apr 01, 2005 8:38:13 am PST #734 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

like aliens that really look alien (or like Skeksis) and not like people with bumpy foreheads.

This was a MAJOR thing for me, and one of the main sources of my Farscape love.

Actually, my love of the show began in the premiere, when Crichton needed to do math and had no scratch paper: he flopped to the floor and did his math there. Probably something someone would really do in life, in a pinch; but you don't see it on TV much.

Heck, that he had to do math at all. This was another major draw to the show for me.

Along that same line, I keep meaning to check out Numbers, but I'm always working on Friday nights, and there's only so many shows my roomie can tape at once.


Betsy HP - Apr 01, 2005 8:39:57 am PST #735 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Even though I know how expensive it will be, I won't say "Wow, those are REAL aliens!" until I see a show where at least 50% of the aliens are something other than upright bipeds.


DavidS - Apr 01, 2005 8:41:25 am PST #736 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I won't say "Wow, those are REAL aliens!" until I see a show where at least 50% of the aliens are something other than upright bipeds.

Yeah but the DNA Mad Scientist really moved and looked...alien. Though bipedal it had the elongated dog-joint going on for it.


Sean K - Apr 01, 2005 8:46:53 am PST #737 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I won't say "Wow, those are REAL aliens!" until I see a show where at least 50% of the aliens are something other than upright bipeds.

That's definitely the next step, but getting away from bumpy noses and foreheads is a big thing.

Next we need a hyperintelligent shade of the color blue.


Nutty - Apr 01, 2005 8:54:38 am PST #738 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, the up side of having all aliens still have, e.g., faces and hands is that they're recognizable. Like, they're aliens, but we can still find a way to relate to them as emotive creatures -- harder to do if the alien in question is shaped like a slime mold.

I give a pass to the basic mammalian/avian/lizard earthly design of alien creatures, as long as they don't all look like people who fell down a clay cliff and right onto the screen. Even the Skarrans Mark 1, which were obviously actor + apparatus, didn't look like humans from the mid-chest up.


Jessica - Apr 01, 2005 8:55:13 am PST #739 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

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