Do I wish I was somebody else right now. Somebody not... married, not madly in love with a beautiful woman who can kill me with her pinkie!

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DXMachina - Jan 17, 2006 8:40:16 am PST #6607 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

A couple years ago I toured the USS Hornet (a WWII-era carrier - Moore has talked about touring this ship as well). Carriers have a separate "bridge" where flight operations, moving aircraft about, etc. are directed. The main bridge where the ship is conned would be above that. And there's a separate admiral's bridge (only used when the ship is also the flagship) that (I think) is above the main bridge.

There are actually two different commands on board a carrier (and sometimes three). The Captain commands the ship itself, and the CAG commands the air group (which is an independent unit), so you need a bridge for each of them. The third possible command is if an admiral is on board, in which case the ship becomes his flag ship. Admirals command task forces, even if the task force is only one ship (one famous example of this is the Bismarck, after Adm. Lütjens detached the Prinz Eugen from his force of two). There will still be a Captain. The Admiral's job is to tell the Captain where he wants the ship to go, and the Captain's job is to make sure it gets there. The CAG is also under the Admiral's command, separate from the Captain.

If a Captain winds up temporarily commanding a task force, he's given the courtesy rank of Commodore.

In the real US Navy, Commander is a rank, but also a title. It's confusing.

I think you're thinking of "Captain," which is both a rank and a title in the USN.

BSG mixes all sorts of Army and Navy ranks. Full Colonels in the US outrank Commanders. Another thing about carrier Captains in the USN. By federal law they must all be ex-naval aviators (and usually ex-CAGs).


Jessica - Jan 17, 2006 8:50:57 am PST #6608 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

BSG mixes all sorts of Army and Navy ranks.

Appropriately, I think -- we wouldn't want it to be an exact replica of an existing Earth military system.


DXMachina - Jan 17, 2006 9:39:33 am PST #6609 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Appropriately, I think -- we wouldn't want it to be an exact replica of an existing Earth military system.

I suspect it's more likely because the writers of the original BSG series had no clue.


tommyrot - Jan 17, 2006 10:34:39 am PST #6610 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I suspect it's more likely because the writers of the original BSG series had no clue.

But to make up for it, they had '70s hair! And togas.


Jessica - Jan 17, 2006 10:37:21 am PST #6611 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I suspect it's more likely because the writers of the original BSG series had no clue.

Shhhhhhh...


tommyrot - Jan 17, 2006 10:43:00 am PST #6612 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

From the NYT piece a while back:

And so he called Moore and asked him if he was interested in bringing a second big spaceship show back to life. Moore knew the original ''Battlestar,'' and after talking to Eick, he watched Larson's original three-hour pilot again. It surprised him. Here was a deeply somber story about a civilization that had basically endured genocide, and for the first hour it was elegantly told and strangely affecting. ''They were trying,'' he told me. ''It took a hard left turn to insanity when they reached the casino planet, but they were really trying.''

Ah, yes - the casino planet....


Betsy HP - Jan 17, 2006 10:45:28 am PST #6613 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I really liked that Roslin had the current population written on her whiteboard. I think it was in the Previouslies.


Jessica - Jan 17, 2006 10:51:42 am PST #6614 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It took a hard left turn to insanity when they reached the casino planet

That's putting it mildly...

(And was a recurring problem with the original series, much though I adore it -- they kept finding populated planets, which made the whole "humanity completely wiped out" premise less than convincing. The current crop of Cylons were much more thorough.)


sumi - Jan 17, 2006 10:51:52 am PST #6615 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Still has the current population. I like that too. I'm glad that they started putting that in the opening sequence.


Kathy A - Jan 17, 2006 10:52:53 am PST #6616 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Ah, yes - the casino planet....

Does every SF show do this? I'm thinking of the horrendous ST:TNG ep (Casino Royale, wasn't it?).