Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2006 10:54:22 am PST #6589 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Slight change of pace: a very fun Aliens Made Us Have a Threesome. SG-1, Jack/Sam/Daniel, very much NSFW. [link]


DCJensen - Jan 16, 2006 11:19:29 am PST #6590 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Betsy, I seem to remember that, but I am talking about the S10 plot points/spoilers being a bit ahead of the curve.

I mean, the spoilers could be legit, but they could be false for the actual storylines, not for the events that you mentioned that affect S9.

All I'm saying is those specific storylines for S10 are the thing I'm wondering about.


Strega - Jan 16, 2006 11:44:45 am PST #6591 of 10001

Does she have some particular horrible thing that she expects Kara to have to do in mind, though?

Yes, she's going to have to decide whether or not to support Cain. Again, the lead-in to that speech is Cain confirming that Starbuck & Adama are close (and that Starbuck does not get along with Tigh, for that matter). For Cain, the meaning is "Sometimes we have to do awful things. F'rinstance, I intend to execute two of your friends, and because he's getting in the way of that, I'm going to have your father-figure killed in a couple of hours. Don't let your personal feelings keep you from seeing that I'm doing What Must Be Done."


Katie M - Jan 16, 2006 12:01:40 pm PST #6592 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

FWIW, Daniel, Gateworld is normally extremely reliable when it comes to spoilers. Chances are high that plot description came straight from the Stargate PTB.


DCJensen - Jan 16, 2006 12:13:11 pm PST #6593 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Well, hopefully they notice fan reaction to the spoilers...


Beverly - Jan 16, 2006 12:30:11 pm PST #6594 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Would it be better to buy six seasons of HL individually for $30 each? Or this?

And would anybody like to buy six seasons of commercial VHS tapes? Anybody? Sigh.

I thought Cain was attempting to play on the mentor/role model she knew Kara saw her as in that scene, bidding for Kara's loyalty. Because she knew Kara would react to Adama's upcoming death, and she wanted her to come down on her side. It was a bid for understanding of the why things need to be done. And also, a setup for the occasion when Cain would have to ask a very difficult duty of Kara.

I didn't see it as a bid for assisted suicide at all.

I didn't see Lee's inertia as a bid for suicide either. I thought he'd just shut down, and wasn't making any attempt to save himself. Decision by default.

Six is Baltar's memory of the Cylon spy he fell in love with--Gina is the physical presence who began her life as a model Six, but was tortured by the Pegasus crew when she was discovered to be a Cylon. I think of them as two separate entities--moreso than Caprica!Boomer and Galactica!Boomer, actually.

And apparently I'm not very much emotionally invested in the SGs, because I just bob placidly along in the current of the storyllines, enjoy the pretty, and am not too exercised about where the plots are going. As long as there's pretty, I'm good.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 2:07:42 pm PST #6595 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay, my theory goes "splat", I think. Ah, well.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2006 2:11:39 pm PST #6596 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Brain-meltingly hot Cameron/Teal'c (no spoilers): [link]


Stephanie - Jan 17, 2006 4:41:10 am PST #6597 of 10001
Trust my rage

I thought Cain was attempting to play on the mentor/role model she knew Kara saw her as in that scene, bidding for Kara's loyalty. Because she knew Kara would react to Adama's upcoming death, and she wanted her to come down on her side.

Now that I read what Beverly said, I think she is exactly right. The speech makes perfect sense in that context.


sumi - Jan 17, 2006 5:21:22 am PST #6598 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Of course, I happen to think that Kara would mind the deaths of LOTS of the people who would be in the CIC just after an attack. Not just Adama but other comrades and friends.

Wasn't there a plan to kill Apollo too? I mean, wouldn't it make sense? How much of that would Kara see as necessary? And what would make her start to work against Cain?

I think that Cain not fighting back was a better sign of suicidal tendencies. (I mean, surely she has a marine guard or two right around the corner? Wouldn't any shots fired have brought them running?)