Willow: You know what they say. The bigger they are... Anya: The faster they stomp you into nothin'.

'The Killer In Me'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Strega - Jan 15, 2006 8:43:52 pm PST #6539 of 10001

My widescreen LCD tv died recently.
Ow, that's sad. I have a... I can't remember, 28 or 30-inch old timey TV. Which is probably why I was compelled to go sit 2 feet away from it halfway through the ep.

Last summer I sent my old tapes of season 1 to a friend now living in Germany. He emailed this weekend saying he was trying to upgrade iTunes so he could buy the season 2 premiere, because he had to know how the cliffhanger got resolved. So I had the nicely sadistic pleasure of telling him, "The premiere doesn't resolve anything. You should probably just order the 2.0 DVDs." And then he was all, "Really? Not even..." "No, nothing. It takes a few episodes before Adama's even conscious again. You're welcome!"

If I'd been thinking, I'd have recorded one of the marathons for him, but he hadn't seem interested the last time we talked. He must have blown through the first season in a month.


Kathy A - Jan 16, 2006 4:04:10 am PST #6540 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I had to see it without the comentary after having seen it with the commentary.

Is that the few minutes of commentary up at aol.com? Also, where can one find the podcast by the creator-guy (Moore, right?)?


tommyrot - Jan 16, 2006 4:15:25 am PST #6541 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is that the few minutes of commentary up at aol.com?

No, I meant the podcast. I suppose I should call it that, to avoid confusion with the AOL thing.

Also, where can one find the podcast by the creator-guy (Moore, right?)?

Yeah, Moore is exec producer, head writer, etc. The podcast stuff is here: [link]

If you have iTunes and want to subscribe to the feed, use this:

http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/downloads/podcast/podcast.xml

eta: Huh, they added this disclaimer:

Commentary by the producers is presented unedited and uncensored, and may contain adult language. Listener discretion is advised.

Yes, there is occasional naughty-wordage....


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 7:40:11 am PST #6542 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I just leapt ahead to comment on BSG.

Has anybody noticed yet that we saw three different people try to commit suicide, only one successful? (Lee, Six, and Cain)

Cain was *telling* Kara to kill her, and Kara didn't quite grasp that.


§ ita § - Jan 16, 2006 7:51:30 am PST #6543 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cain was *telling* Kara to kill her, and Kara didn't quite grasp that.

I didn't feel that was her point, but that it was a message that could be extracted from it. I don't see why she'd want to be killed. She still seemed to feel she was the saviour of the species, and that no one else was able to do what needed be done.


Consuela - Jan 16, 2006 7:53:03 am PST #6544 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Yeah, what ita said. Cain didn't strike me as anywhere near despairing enough to kill herself. For instance, she was at that point still planning to take out the Galactica command structure--and, presumably, run the whole show herself.


Katie M - Jan 16, 2006 8:10:10 am PST #6545 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

That's why that scene with Kara didn't really work for me--I didn't believe Cain wanted Kara to kill her, but Cain's topic of conversation didn't make any sense outside of its ironic meaning RE Kara's assassination mission.

I will say, Cain did not fight very hard for her life at the end there, though. Just stood and waited for execution.


Strega - Jan 16, 2006 8:27:32 am PST #6546 of 10001

Cain's topic of conversation didn't make any sense outside of its ironic meaning RE Kara's assassination mission.

Cain starts out by confirming that Starbuck is tight with Adama, and then makes that little speech about how sometimes you have to do terrible things for the greater good. She's pre-justifying her reasons for having Adama killed. It's just that it cuts both ways, because Dramatic Irony Is Fun!


tommyrot - Jan 16, 2006 8:32:17 am PST #6547 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Cain could also be justifying her murderous, capital-punishment ways - i.e. her actions in the past.


Betsy HP - Jan 16, 2006 8:34:23 am PST #6548 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I will say, Cain did not fight very hard for her life at the end there, though. Just stood and waited for execution.

That's what started me thinking. That and "Promise me, don't flinch."

I think Cain had some sort of elaborate tricky plot in which she and Adama both died and her acolyte took over both fleets.