Too many limbs.
Lorne: Take care of yourself and ah, make sure fluffy is getting enough love. Gunn: Did he have anything? Fred: No. And who's fluffy? Are you fluffy? Gunn: He called me fluffy? Fred: He said make sure…wait. You don't think he was referring to anything of mine that's fluffy, do you? Because that would just be inappropriate.
'Conviction (1)'
Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Katie M - Mar 28, 2005 7:28:54 am PST #621 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
tommyrot - Mar 28, 2005 7:36:14 am PST #622 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
::makes mental note to add limb-severing accidents to fanfic::
Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 7:41:39 am PST #623 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Tom has hit on a capital idea! We have textual proof that loss of a limb increases the sex appeal of a character by leaps and bounds. We should initiate a working group to study how best to implement amputation while avoiding the Potential Woobification Factor.
... Fassbinder would be proud.
§ ita § - Mar 28, 2005 7:44:20 am PST #624 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
But the woobification increases the sex appeal too -- or are you biased against creepy Oedipal sex? C'mon now.
Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 7:47:59 am PST #625 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Hm. Do sex appeal and woobification go hand in hand? It's possible to be sexy without needing a bowl of hot soup; it's possible to be both states at once; but does needing a bowl of hot soup automatically qualify one for sexiness?
Me, I think no; I think it's possible for a drowned rat (or similar) to awaken sympathy without turning on the wakka chikka music. However, I am one of those incredibly contrary people who goes looking for gen fanfic, so possibly I should not be trusted to speak for the majority.
§ ita § - Mar 28, 2005 7:49:59 am PST #626 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
does needing a bowl of hot soup automatically qualify one for sexiness?
Doesn't the soup principle figure in H/C fic?
I think it's possible for a drowned rat (or similar) to awaken sympathy without turning on the wakka chikka music.
You woobify rats? Okay, I take it all back.
Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 7:56:39 am PST #627 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Doesn't the soup principle figure in H/C fic?
Well, yes, in some ways. Although I guess what I'm asking is, does all hurt lead to h/c? I would like to think no, because I think there is a fetishment in there, in the ritual of hurt and comfort, that is not standard equipment for all humans. In the real world, it's possible to make somebody a bowl of soup, and still not want to have sex with that person, or even necessarily like him/her very much. That is how funeral buffets work, right?
§ ita § - Mar 28, 2005 8:02:49 am PST #628 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
does all hurt lead to h/c
Absolutely not. Never meant to imply it.
Though I wonder -- I wonder how the poll would break down between "weak", "powerful", "formerly weak, now powerful", "formerly powerful, now (healably) weak."
H/C is the latter, right?
Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 8:08:56 am PST #629 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
"formerly powerful, now (healably) weak"
Oh, so you're saying that h/c is predicated on the role reversal? Or anyway, the reversal of a power differential. I can see that, I guess, although I don't know if that's always true.
Actually, to get back to the "amputations make villains sexy!" train of thought, in both cases I am thinking of, it was not the amputation itself that caused the sexiness, nor even the reversal of villains-turned-victims; it was the accompanying bitterness at the world that done it. Also, chiaroscuro lighting and sarcasm, but I think both of these are side effects of the bitter.
I think if a hero were maimed, you would have a more straightforward h/c, woobie type of situation. But villain-maiming is a different set of circumstances, yesno?
Calli - Mar 28, 2005 8:14:52 am PST #630 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
The first two amputated villains that come to my mind are Krycek from X-Files and of course Lindsey. And I thought they were pretty sexy before they lost limbs. The limb loss did give the slash fic writers something to hang adjectives on beyond "the shorter man" and "the doublecrossing agent" though, so that's a plus right there.