Handsome brooding vampire guy has to swoop in all sensitive mouth and overhanging forehead. How 'bout leaving some scraps for the homely-looking fellows who don't turn evil when they get some?

Doyle ,'Life of the Party'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 7:56:39 am PST #627 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Doesn't the soup principle figure in H/C fic?

Well, yes, in some ways. Although I guess what I'm asking is, does all hurt lead to h/c? I would like to think no, because I think there is a fetishment in there, in the ritual of hurt and comfort, that is not standard equipment for all humans. In the real world, it's possible to make somebody a bowl of soup, and still not want to have sex with that person, or even necessarily like him/her very much. That is how funeral buffets work, right?


§ ita § - Mar 28, 2005 8:02:49 am PST #628 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

does all hurt lead to h/c

Absolutely not. Never meant to imply it.

Though I wonder -- I wonder how the poll would break down between "weak", "powerful", "formerly weak, now powerful", "formerly powerful, now (healably) weak."

H/C is the latter, right?


Nutty - Mar 28, 2005 8:08:56 am PST #629 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

"formerly powerful, now (healably) weak"

Oh, so you're saying that h/c is predicated on the role reversal? Or anyway, the reversal of a power differential. I can see that, I guess, although I don't know if that's always true.

Actually, to get back to the "amputations make villains sexy!" train of thought, in both cases I am thinking of, it was not the amputation itself that caused the sexiness, nor even the reversal of villains-turned-victims; it was the accompanying bitterness at the world that done it. Also, chiaroscuro lighting and sarcasm, but I think both of these are side effects of the bitter.

I think if a hero were maimed, you would have a more straightforward h/c, woobie type of situation. But villain-maiming is a different set of circumstances, yesno?


Calli - Mar 28, 2005 8:14:52 am PST #630 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The first two amputated villains that come to my mind are Krycek from X-Files and of course Lindsey. And I thought they were pretty sexy before they lost limbs. The limb loss did give the slash fic writers something to hang adjectives on beyond "the shorter man" and "the doublecrossing agent" though, so that's a plus right there.


§ ita § - Mar 28, 2005 8:17:36 am PST #631 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

so you're saying that h/c is predicated on the role reversal?

I doubt it's always true. Not much is.

Isn't it usually a capable lead character? For all I know, there are tons of "nursing Buffy!Jonathan back to health" stories, but those are obviously crazy people.


Dana - Mar 28, 2005 10:56:47 am PST #632 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Someone out in LJ land transcribed and captured an interview that David Hewlett did with something called "Cyberline.com". I don't know, I don't care, but I think I may be in love.

They ask him how he initally got in to acting:

DH: I got into it really early. I had this sort of epiphany, at a probably far too old age, that I couldn't actually be a Doctor Who Time Lord.

Transcript, with link to the audio file.


Jars - Mar 28, 2005 11:47:39 am PST #633 of 10001

I listened to that a while ago. He's such a geek. He geeks out with the interviewers about Linux and programming for about twenty minutes. He just comes across as a really lovely guy.

Edited to add that I think I might be a little in love too.


JenP - Mar 28, 2005 12:22:03 pm PST #634 of 10001

Oh, God, that music. So gorgeous.

Yes. The music in this show, I've loved (especially some in the final two eps). Want soundtrack CD. Now.


sumi - Mar 28, 2005 12:22:54 pm PST #635 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, they're going to repeat "Colonial Day" and "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1" before showing "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2" on Friday.

However, there is a new JOA so I will be missing at least "Colonial Day".


JenP - Mar 28, 2005 1:45:16 pm PST #636 of 10001

You know what I love? I love it when Hammond gets his rank on. Hee. Totally just smacked down Harry in Enigma (where we first meet the Tollan).

I miss George.