I think the question is "Will it suck in entertaining ways or in terribly dull ones?"
But, then, I enjoyed Frankenfish lots and lots
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DebetEsse - Dec 03, 2005 4:21:47 pm PST #5552 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2005 4:24:07 pm PST #5553 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I don't know - does a SciFi original programming movie have to have some sort of monster or human/animal hybrid in order to suck in entertaining ways?
Eh - if I'm bored and not doing anything, maybe I'll find out.
ION, the romance stuff on Hulk is so badly written.
§ ita § - Dec 03, 2005 4:35:16 pm PST #5554 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Ang would have been better served to make a movie not part of a long-running comic book franchise.
I think he's an amazing director, one of my favourites, and you know damned few people, even if they liked the movie, were fist-pumping "That's my Hulk! That's my man!" with parallel enthusiasm, say, to my reaction to Batman Begins. Even if the movie hadn't sucked, I can't see it tapping into what makes comic book readers love the comic. He's never struck me as that sort of director.
When I'm being extra-nice I decide that it's being hampered by canon and pop culture and medium-grade iconicity that helps the movie to be bad.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2005 4:37:11 pm PST #5555 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Was there all this incredibly complicated backstory to Bruce and the scientist chick and their fathers in the comic book?
§ ita § - Dec 03, 2005 4:40:59 pm PST #5556 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Not in any of the comics I've read.
And, whether there was or not, there's an icon-adaptation problem -- who cares? If you're going to lose the people who know as much as "Some radiation thing, and now he goes green and stupid when he gets angry" while pleasing the fanboys, you're not making your money back.
I don't think the Hulk is a complicated character. If you're going to dress him up, make it easy.
DXMachina - Dec 03, 2005 5:00:11 pm PST #5557 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
Was there all this incredibly complicated backstory to Bruce and the scientist chick and their fathers in the comic book?
In the original comic, Banner is head scientist on a gamma bomb project overseen by General Ross. Betty Ross and Bruce start falling in love in the first issue.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2005 5:32:36 pm PST #5558 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'm about halfway though Hulk, and I'm bored silly. Does interesting stuff happen in the rest of the movie? Any decent special effects?
Dana - Dec 03, 2005 5:34:55 pm PST #5559 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Um. I think he smashes a lot of stuff.
tommyrot - Dec 03, 2005 5:36:55 pm PST #5560 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Well yeah, I figured that. But does he smash stuff in interesting ways? Any pretty explosions?
I just don't give a damn about any of these characters....
Jessica - Dec 03, 2005 5:55:46 pm PST #5561 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
The last 20 minutes are interesting, in the sense that they appear to be from a completely different movie.
I remember being not as entertained by the smashing as I'd hoped.