A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Well, damn. I'm sold. That sounds
FABulous.
...While trying to, ah, get ahold of episodes of Season 2, I wandered over to read the Stargate Blog.
Well there’s no fact checker, but all of us here at Stargate do believe we’re breaking new ground this week on Stargate Atlantis. In an effort to compete with Will & Grace, this week’s Atlantis episode, entitled “Duet” offers…
Wait for it!
Two men kissing. In space. Well, in the Pegasus Galaxy at least.
Now, some of the more die-hard fans may know that there’s long and storied history of male-to-male face-touching in Stargate SG-1, although it’s never gone as far as kissing. And there’s a simple reason for that: it’s gross. Just kidding. It’s not gross. It’s just not that commonplace on North American television. And considering the hub-bub it’s likely to cause, one wonders if it’s necessary.
Well, guess what? The writers weren’t sure either. Martin Gero – whiz-kid, writing machine, comic genius and confident heterosexual that he is – wrote the script, and the kiss was in the first draft from day one. But I can tell you that in a later draft, the kiss was notoriously missing. It took some lobbying and some discussion to get that kiss back in there. And guess what? It was the right decision, because it works. It’s a part of the story. It’s funny. It’s brave. And David Hewlett makes it work.
So I checked with Guinness World Records, thinking that the first male-to-male sci-fi screen kiss might be a record, but according to Guiness, “firsts” may or may not be recognized as records. For example, “First woman to reach the North Pole” is a record, but “First British woman to reach the North Pole” isn’t. So I assume the first time two guys locked lips on TV was a record, but my guess is that the folks at Guiness probably won’t differentiate between Sci-fi and other genres, the bastards. I’ll have to check with Martin to see if he wants me to pursue the application…
And what I'm wondering is - IS this the first boy/boy snog on US SciFi TV? Surely
Farscape
must have gone there? Or on of the
Treks?
Or, well,
somebody?
...anyone?
...Bueller?
One of the Treks? Ha. (No.) Female/female, yes. Riker/androgyne (played by woman), yes.
Farscape had that scene with the finger-licking.
Huh.
Well, jolly good work, SGA. Carry on.
eta
Quantum Leap?
Surely?
Quantum Leap? Surely?
Not that I remember. I'd love to be corrected.
Huh.
'kay.
....there really should be more places where the sub text gets to dom for a bit.
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Watching
Duet
now.
...Hewlett is basing this on Jack Lemmon in
Some Like it Hot,
yes?
...Mother of GOD, tell me that this show inspired femmeslash. Please. Because between the Girls' Poker nights and that fabulously
Gone With The Winds
girl/girl kiss...
Also? Ronan (?sp?), with his man-of-few-words smouldery schtick? Every BIT as much fun as I'd hoped. Heh. It's good that they're not trying to make him do complicated acting stuff.
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Watching the start of
The Condemned.
...Teyla really is QUITE the lucky girl, isn't she? With wall-to-wall hotness on her team. (Sorry, Ford! Wherever you are.) I trust there must be fic?
GUFFAWS.
Okay, enjoying the totally pointless collars and sexy bondage goings on, but NOBODY warned me about Rodney's "What am I, McGyver?" quip.
I think my head just exploded with the meta.
I've compared Hewlett with Jack Lemmon before -- I find a lot of their acting schticks (and strengths) comparable. (Which would make Flanigan Matthau? Hmmmm.....)
Okay, enjoying the totally pointless collars and sexy bondage goings on, but NOBODY warned me about Rodney's "What am I, McGyver?" quip.
Oh, I'd forgotten that one! Totally cracked me up!
I think I forgot it in all the WTF of BSG.
Do we discuss 4400 here? Cos, next week Peter Coyote is back!!
Don't know if that is white-fontable, it's in the previews, but I want to err on the side of caution.
Starbuck was abused as a child!
To be fair they did mention this in an episode in S1.
Although the madly in love with Crap Sports Man was a bit of a "huh?"
