I was too irritated by Veronica herself to watch more than a few eps. And then something else was on at the same time, so I stopped caring.
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Jessica - Aug 12, 2005 9:37:33 am PDT #3136 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Cass - Aug 12, 2005 9:37:42 am PDT #3137 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
You do realize that this is your fault, Fay. Right? Because it totally is. I read you watching the show and suddenly needed to feel that same thing. Evil, I tell you.
I am resigned. I shall marathon Mars. I was shamelessly spoiled reading here but convienently forgot all of the twists so I shall be spoiled *and* surprised for the same show when I watch.
Cass - Aug 12, 2005 9:40:31 am PDT #3138 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Well if it doesn't grab me, I have no trouble tossing her to the curb. There are enough fans that my viewing habits aren't worth a hill of beans in this crazy world. But if I caught a bad ep, I should see if it can pull itself out. I caught a bad ep of Buffy early on and missed years...
Vortex - Aug 12, 2005 9:50:52 am PDT #3139 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I have this feeling that I should watch from the beginning. or maybe I'm wrong and can just jump in?
And then something else was on at the same time, so I stopped caring.
yeah, that too. I didn't feel the need to go through the hassle for something that wasn't that great.
DCJensen - Aug 12, 2005 10:19:21 am PDT #3140 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Some people doen't even like Buffy The Vampire Slayer.
Some people juggle geese.
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 12, 2005 10:54:12 am PDT #3141 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It left me cold as well, but as so many folks here love it I assume I'm suffering from an Alias-style blind spot to the show.
Betsy HP - Aug 12, 2005 11:16:45 am PDT #3142 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I'm not going to say why you should like it; this is why I do like it.
It possesses Buffy-nature in three important ways:
- Actions have long-term consequences; something dumb Veronica does will generally come back to haunt her
- Witty writing; Veronica's banter with her father, her friends, and her enemies is priceless.
- Veronica screws up, and has to live with that.
On the downside, the actors aren't terribly convincing as high-school students (Veronica's supposed to be a sophomore, I think). I can hadnwave past that.
Jars - Aug 12, 2005 11:23:31 am PDT #3143 of 10001
I'm going to have to ahem VM now, aren't I? Damn you enablers, damn you all.
Mickie - Aug 12, 2005 11:24:15 am PDT #3144 of 10001
Who, Me?
Veronica's a Junior in season 1.
One of the things that I like is that while Veronica can and does pull the wool over her father's eyes, she never gets aways with it for very long. She's smart, but her dad is just as smart and vastly more experienced and it shows.
Vonnie K - Aug 12, 2005 1:15:40 pm PDT #3145 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
God knows I love VM, but it's not for everyone. Objectively, I think it's a quality show with tight writing, witty dialog and decent-to-superlative acting, but subjectively, these may or may not be the kind of characters who appeal to a given Buffista.
I was hooked from the pilot--mostly by the crackling dialog and the hint at the darkness and the arc, plus Veronica herself, whom I adored from the start. But there are elements that put people off, too--the pervasive voice-overs, the way Veronica seems to excel at everything, with a quip and a retort at every corner, the stylistic quirks (the flashbacks, the filters, etc.), and the way she's willing to cross many, MANY lines, morally and ethically, to achieve her goal. I love the character, as much as for her flaws as her virtues, but she's sort of the make-or-break the show character. I've got a bunch of folks in LJ Flist who's tried the show and, like Jessica, found Veronica too irritating. Since she's in practically every frame in all 22 episodes, I can imagine how unbearable the show will be if you dislike the title character. I've kind of learned to stop pimping the show at people who feel this way, because you know, not his/her Beautiful Cake, yada, yada. (Although I've seen people whose fondness for other characters on the show is strong enough--Logan and Keith, especially--that they enjoyed the show despite not thinking too highly of Veronica herself.)
I *would* say though--if you've caught a random early episode and thought it was blah, plot-wise, then it's worthwhile giving it another go. Because what makes the show is the continuity and the build-up. I liked the show a lot in its first half of the season, but I didn't start obsessing and freaking out over each episode until after ep. #12, by which time all the plot threads started weaving more intricately together, characters started morphing in really interesting ways, and the arc kicked into a high gear.