Honestly, you meet the most appalling sort of people....

Giles ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. II: "It's a Cookbook...A Cookbook!!"  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DCJensen - Jun 19, 2005 9:46:02 am PDT #1592 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

News story: [link] (Spoilers for new Who Finale)

The television phenomenon of 2005 is heading for the big screen for the first time in 40 years. The BBC confirmed that it is considering a film adaptation after the triumphant climax of the Doctor Who series last night.


DCJensen - Jun 19, 2005 10:13:10 am PDT #1593 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Knowing Russell T Davies praise of Buffy had me musing on last night's Dr. Who episode.

The big battle bears a resemblance to Buffy Season four, ep " Primeval. " hee.

The big question, I guess, is if the Christmas special will have Jack, The Doctor and Rose sharing an attack by the First TARDIS in their dreams?

And being Dr. Who, There will undoubtably be some Cheese, man.


DCJensen - Jun 19, 2005 10:21:31 am PDT #1594 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Perhaps we only followed their adventures at the end of their long long lifespans?

Nope. with the exception of the first Doctor back in the early 60's, we've seen their complete life spans. They have all died "untimely" deaths. One could infer from the resulting regenerations, that it varies slightly, but the overall trend for Doctors is toward younger.

Nevertheless, the Doctor is generally youthful in spirit, unless something goes "wrong."


§ ita § - Jun 19, 2005 11:33:31 am PDT #1595 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

with the exception of the first Doctor back in the early 60's, we've seen their complete life spans. They have all died "untimely" deaths.

Doesn't that mean we haven't seen their complete life spans? You mean untimely as in "not of natural causes, including age", right? The idea that just because a body looks near the end to us, that it might be Gallifreyan spring chicken is still a possibility, no?


Tom Scola - Jun 19, 2005 11:53:00 am PDT #1596 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Over the course of the show, the Doctor's stated age has been steadily going up by centuries and centuries. One can infer that there are large gaps in the Doctor's life that we have never seen.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 19, 2005 12:16:22 pm PDT #1597 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My viewership only ran up through the Colin Baker years with very few glimpses afterward, but I thought the original Doctor was nearly 800 when he kicked it (the only Doctor to regenerate due to advancing age, by the way), and the subsequent five blew through what should have been about 4,000 years of collective lifespan in less than a century due to their dangerous lifestyle. Did McCoy's run take place over a lot longer timespan?


Dana - Jun 19, 2005 3:40:40 pm PDT #1598 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Did I see David Hewitt (Rodney McKay from Atlantis) in the commercial for Boa v. Python?

Yep. I'm almost considering watching it.


Tom Scola - Jun 19, 2005 3:47:08 pm PDT #1599 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The Doctor's Age

The Doctor's age has been stated (or estimated) in several stories. In the serial The Tomb of the Cybermen the Second Doctor told Victoria that he was around 450 years old. The Second Doctor was also seen to carry around a 500-year diary in which he kept notes.

By the time of The Brain of Morbius, the Fourth Doctor was stated to be 749 years old ("something like 750 years" in the prior Pyramids of Mars). In The Ribos Operation, the first Romana said the Doctor was 759 years old and had been piloting the TARDIS for 523 years, making him 236 when he first "borrowed" it. In Revelation of the Daleks the Sixth Doctor was 900 years old, and in Time and the Rani, the Seventh Doctor's age was the same as the Rani's, namely 953. In Remembrance of the Daleks the Seventh Doctor said that he had "900 years experience" rewiring alien equipment. In the 1996 television movie, the Eighth Doctor kept a 900-year diary in his TARDIS.


DCJensen - Jun 19, 2005 4:14:19 pm PDT #1600 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Doesn't that mean we haven't seen their complete life spans? You mean untimely as in "not of natural causes, including age", right? The idea that just because a body looks near the end to us, that it might be Gallifreyan spring chicken is still a possibility, no?

Well, technically we've seen the span of time each body has been in one visage. I was on crack when I wrote that. I was trying to explain to a self-professed Dr. Who newbie that we've seen the entire "life" of each doctor, and did so badly.


askye - Jun 19, 2005 4:14:44 pm PDT #1601 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I haven't watched the finale yet. Actually I haven't finished Boom Town.

Dad and I had a nice Father's Day, we watched The Pirate Planet. Then I made copies of half of the new Dr Who and gave it to him. Although I gave him a quick preview of Rose, so he could see the new Doctor.

I'm not sure when he'll get a chance to watch them but I'm anxiious to hear his take in Eccleston.