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with the exception of the first Doctor back in the early 60's, we've seen their complete life spans. They have all died "untimely" deaths.
Doesn't that mean we haven't seen their complete life spans? You mean untimely as in "not of natural causes, including age", right? The idea that just because a body looks near the end to us, that it might be Gallifreyan spring chicken is still a possibility, no?
Over the course of the show, the Doctor's stated age has been steadily going up by centuries and centuries. One can infer that there are large gaps in the Doctor's life that we have never seen.
My viewership only ran up through the Colin Baker years with very few glimpses afterward, but I thought the original Doctor was nearly 800 when he kicked it (the only Doctor to regenerate due to advancing age, by the way), and the subsequent five blew through what should have been about 4,000 years of collective lifespan in less than a century due to their dangerous lifestyle. Did McCoy's run take place over a lot longer timespan?
Did I see David Hewitt (Rodney McKay from Atlantis) in the commercial for Boa v. Python?
Yep. I'm almost considering watching it.
The Doctor's age has been stated (or estimated) in several stories. In the serial The Tomb of the Cybermen the Second Doctor told Victoria that he was around 450 years old. The Second Doctor was also seen to carry around a 500-year diary in which he kept notes.
By the time of The Brain of Morbius, the Fourth Doctor was stated to be 749 years old ("something like 750 years" in the prior Pyramids of Mars). In The Ribos Operation, the first Romana said the Doctor was 759 years old and had been piloting the TARDIS for 523 years, making him 236 when he first "borrowed" it. In Revelation of the Daleks the Sixth Doctor was 900 years old, and in Time and the Rani, the Seventh Doctor's age was the same as the Rani's, namely 953. In Remembrance of the Daleks the Seventh Doctor said that he had "900 years experience" rewiring alien equipment. In the 1996 television movie, the Eighth Doctor kept a 900-year diary in his TARDIS.
Doesn't that mean we haven't seen their complete life spans? You mean untimely as in "not of natural causes, including age", right? The idea that just because a body looks near the end to us, that it might be Gallifreyan spring chicken is still a possibility, no?
Well, technically we've seen the span of time each body has been in one visage. I was on crack when I wrote that. I was trying to explain to a self-professed Dr. Who newbie that we've seen the entire "life" of each doctor, and did so badly.
I haven't watched the finale yet. Actually I haven't finished Boom Town.
Dad and I had a nice Father's Day, we watched The Pirate Planet. Then I made copies of half of the new Dr Who and gave it to him. Although I gave him a quick preview of Rose, so he could see the new Doctor.
I'm not sure when he'll get a chance to watch them but I'm anxiious to hear his take in Eccleston.
In Remembrance of the Daleks the Seventh Doctor said that he had "900 years experience" rewiring alien equipment.
I'm thinking that the changing age can be fanwanked to indicate that his linear time in existance has been much more than the appearance of passing time in normal earth duration.
Yeah, that's it, that's the ticket.
Or? He has lost track from time to time...
Background: Am-Chau and I were discussing The Time Traveller's Wife in Literary, and I noted that I had come up with terminology for 2different types of time-travel stories:Closed-loop, wherein actions in the past cause the present that the traveler(s) left from, and Open-loop, wherein the time-traveler(s)'s actions in the past change the present. I also commented that Stargate was the only canon I myself knew of that contained both, and she said that she would be interested in discussing that. (Further reflection has led me to think that it's probable that Star Trek may well have both, within a singel iteration).
On Stargate, it seems very odd to me that it was necessary for SG-1 to go back and cause 1969, but not for them to go back and cause Mobeus, and I do not know how you reconcile that. 1969 has that classic Closed-Loop problem of "The First Time through the loop, how did Hammond know when the flares would be (this is where my brain starts trying to escape from my skull on Closed-Loop stories). So, short version: I have a hard time getting my brain around having both kinds of time-travel in the same Universe.
Maybe different methods of time travel have different effects on the timestream? Like how in DC comics the Phantom Stranger can only observe invisibly and not interfere when he goes back in time via magic but Per Degaton can use his particular scientific devices to travel back and alter the past?