Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud.

'Safe'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Aims - Mar 21, 2005 8:18:35 am PST #9098 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

*I* understood the pivot the first time.

t /false smugness


erikaj - Mar 21, 2005 8:19:55 am PST #9099 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

For me, it's just the facts...but you know, brain-damaged. I once read about a para chick who could come from her knees, but that never happened to me.


DavidS - Mar 21, 2005 8:21:27 am PST #9100 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I once read about a para chick who could come from her knees, but that never happened to me.

From...rubbing them together like a grasshopper? Am I on the wrong kind of "come"?


Topic!Cindy - Mar 21, 2005 8:22:59 am PST #9101 of 10002
What is even happening?

And it's been driving me batshit that the loudest advocate for forcing Terry to keep living on my reading list is a same-sex marriage advocate. Has no idea that she's hoping for some of those rights she's fighting for will be eroded if this goes too far.

I find it oddly comforting when people aren't playing with the obvious team, on every political position. It frustrates me when, for example, all the pro-lifers are on one side and all the pro-choicers are on the other side of an issue like this.

It makes me wonder how many of the people out there agitating (I mean people who are literally involved in an issue like this, one way or another, not just people weighing in, during a convo.) is paying attention to particulars. I was delighted to come across some evangelical people taking the position that people in a PVS are no longer living, because they're no longer living imago deus, even though I don't happen to believe humans have a right (from the religious pov that is) to make such a judgment.


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 8:24:20 am PST #9102 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My sense of body is such that in controlled movements, I can be very precise. 90 degree angles of joint, flat back, etc -- personal trainer's dream, since I don't need to be nagged about form. Give me a mirror, and the procedure is even quicker.

In motion, it gets more complicated, naturally. But I don't need to look at my body in any given pose at the end of motion to tell what it's doing.

There are times (like with jumping spinning kicks) that I swear it must have worked, since I tried so damned hard, but I do realise that I'm not getting any reports from below the neck to substantiate what my brain is insisting.

It used to be awful. I blanked out when I sparred. I wouldn't be able to take anything into the ring/roda that hadn't been ground into me at the level of reflex. I'd step in, step forward, and not remember anything until I was stepping out again. People would give me feedback, but to no end. Lost time, in parcels two minutes across.

I don't know what broke me of that, but I'm damned glad it's gone.


erikaj - Mar 21, 2005 8:26:19 am PST #9103 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, babe...well, she had restricted sensation, which I don't, but I was sort of hoping for a superpower, or a way to win bets. So that's where the feeling came from, as far as she was concerned.


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2005 8:27:42 am PST #9104 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

The way my mind works, if you said:

""When you do this technique, pivot your back foot." Then I do the technique and say "See how my heel is pointing towards the window? Pivot like that."

I need a synonym. "When I say 'pivot', I mean put all your weight on your toes and turn." Or 'put all your weight on your heel and turn".

Seriously. I don't necessarily know what "pivot" means in a given context. Sometimes you really do need to say "No, no, your OTHER left!"


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 8:29:59 am PST #9105 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I need a synonym. "When I say 'pivot', I mean put all your weight on your toes and turn." Or 'put all your weight on your heel and turn".

Do you need a synonym after you've actually pivoted? Or are you able to say "these noises -- this motion -- this end position" and work from there?

I'm not caring where their weight is. If we can agree on a start position (already established) and an end position (which I'm repeatedly demonstrating, including using their own limbs) -- if they can work out how to get from one to the other without pivoting, I'd be fascinated to see it.


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2005 8:32:13 am PST #9106 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Or are you able to say "these noises -- this motion -- this end position" and work from there?

No. I really, really can't do that. I don't get how to get from point A to point B. I need to know "Throw your weight on the ball of your right foot, bend your knee, kick your free foot forward, jump, and turn." "Rotate and jump to the right, landing on your right foot" will leave me staring like a moo-cow.

I'm not trying to be difficult; I am explaining why I'm a difficult student in physical things. I really do need the intermediate stages explained.


Nutty - Mar 21, 2005 8:34:34 am PST #9107 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Actually, yeah. That makes sense, what Betsy is describing. Another aspect of the "can't park a car in 500 feet square" problem I have is that it's very easy for me to mix up things like mirror images. Those quizzes where they ask you, "If you rotated this object 180d, what would it look like?" -- I always fail those, because too many of the options seem plausible.

This is also why I suck so hard at geometry.

I think if I'm allowed to, e.g., touch the pivoting part, or move in slow motion in exact parallel with the picoting part, I'm better at wrapping my head around what is actually happening. A lot of the time, when I look at maps, I don't re-position the map; I just look at it sideways.