It's all about choices, Faith. The ones we make, and the ones we don't. Oh, and the consequences. Those are always fun.

Angelus ,'Smile Time'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Mar 20, 2005 4:49:27 pm PST #8928 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

He will graduate with his age group, but have a jump start on college credit.

That's the kind of thing that makes the most sense to me. But really, what do I know? I was just having this conversation with my mother about how everyone thinks they understand education because they went to school. Turns out? Being a student isn't the same as being a teacher.


brenda m - Mar 20, 2005 4:49:37 pm PST #8929 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I think you're right, Jesse, with a lot of kids who are advanced for their aga - always assuming, of course, that the school is in any way equipped to provide that kid with something challenging enough despite not being in step with the class, which is a huge if. But for the kids who are that far advanced, my sense is that not being allowed to follow where their minds are taking them is borderline cruelty. In J's case, the kid I mentioned above, I know his mother worried a lot about the fact that he was cut off in a lot of ways socially. But preventing him from going to university classes (we lived within blocks of the uni, fwiw) would have been much harder on him.

Funny. I just remembered that I got my first kitten from J. Named Tiger, so you can see that creativity didn't necessarily come packaged with the mad math and science skilz.


Theodosia - Mar 20, 2005 4:51:55 pm PST #8930 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

A friend of mine has a very gifted child and has researched a lot of the best wisdom on the subject. Boiled down, it's "don't push, let the child pull you." And that even though they're smart, emotionally they're still children.


Lee - Mar 20, 2005 4:52:12 pm PST #8931 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Skipped way ahead to say, whoohoo, I'm in Chicago! Aurelia has a great apartment and a cute cat.

goes back to read the last 100 messages


Emily - Mar 20, 2005 4:56:11 pm PST #8932 of 10002
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

it seems to me that a 10 year old could be learning all kinds of interesting stuff on his own, but still be in a classroom with relative age-peers (even with skipping a grade or two).

It's possible, but -- well, obviously each case is different. But I left high school two years early because it was making me miserable (along with other reasons). Now, I wasn't significantly younger that the average student at my college, which would make it a remarkably different experience, nor did I leave because I was brilliant. But for different reasons, making me stay with my age peers for the sake of normalcy would have been actively cruel.

My take is that there's no really good answer; they're so unusual that they probably are going to feel out of place regardless where they are. Some will be happier going through school with their age group; some may not be able to socialize with their age group, so what would be the point?

Eh, I'm rambling. I just think there's no right answer, and probably the families do the best they can.


Jesse - Mar 20, 2005 4:58:49 pm PST #8933 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Crap, I just remembered -- about the different people being different and no one-size-fits-all solution to anything, and all that business. Who's always going on about that, again?


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 5:04:32 pm PST #8934 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who's always going on about that, again?

Some hippie kook.

I know a couple subjects in grade school were beyond boring for me not because of the content, but the speed of covering the content.

I can't imagine the horror of every class, even ones I hated, dragging that way (reminds me of a comic scan I just read on LJ, where Quicksilver, a speedster moans: 'Tell me, doctor ... have you ever stood in line at a banking machine behind a person who didn't know how to use it? Or wanted to buy stamps at the post office and the fellow in front of you wants to know every single way he can ship his package to Istanbul? Or gotten some counter idiot at Burger King who can't comprehend "Whopper, no pickles?" [...] Your life is being slowed to a crawl by the inabilities or the inconvenient behaviour of others. [...] Now imagine, doctor, that everyone you work with, everywhere you go ... your entire world .. is filled with people who can't work cash machines.'), especially if I wanted to learn.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2005 5:07:55 pm PST #8935 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Who's always going on about that, again?

Some cowgirl.

nor did I leave because I was brilliant.

::pfftt::


Lee - Mar 20, 2005 5:11:34 pm PST #8936 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

ita, I introduced Nicole to tamarind balls yesterday, and just pimped them to Aurelia as well.

I should have brought my hat.


DavidS - Mar 20, 2005 5:12:44 pm PST #8937 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I should have brought my hat.

The pimp hat? You know you're not rally Macking until you have platform clogs that are hollowed out and have goldfish swimming around in them.