And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 3:51:14 pm PST #8916 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Language Log made me yell. Less flapping, people! Less flapping, more distinction!


Trudy Booth - Mar 20, 2005 3:53:45 pm PST #8917 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I was skippy-skimmy-catchyuppy and might have missed something, but did you people REALLY have a relative cuteness stages of John Stamos and neglect to mention BLACKIE PARRISH?

you're all too damn young. get offa my virtual lawn


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:19:02 pm PST #8918 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I kicked a chick in the head and in the ribs hard enough to leave a mark.

But three people were attacking me with weapons!

Yeah, I should have been more in control. Or they should have had me working with guys.

Okay, maybe it's about control. Still, when one person has your hands trapped, and there's a chick with a knife and another with a gun coming at you -- well, I'm not that good yet, to take it all calmly.

No one was injured in the making of this realisation. Bruised, but that's not the same thing.


brenda m - Mar 20, 2005 4:22:47 pm PST #8919 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ooh, Laura. That sounds so cool. Now that you're moving the office out of the house it must be an easier sell.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:28:05 pm PST #8920 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wow. So sad. I wonder if being such a prodigy made him so different from the norm that his responses are inscrutable? Or is it just that someone so talented makes us feel weird, and we reflect that back?


Jesse - Mar 20, 2005 4:32:57 pm PST #8921 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That is sad. But I'm suspicious of the families of academic prodigies in the same way I'm suspicious of the families of any other kid who is that exceptional that young -- how much of the accomplishment is child-driven? Not that I have any more experience with that kind of thing than the average 60 Minutes watcher.


Laura - Mar 20, 2005 4:34:07 pm PST #8922 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

That is sad. It's a shame that his family didn't detect the depression, or any hint this might happen.

Yes brenda, it is easier to sell him on the idea since he wouldn't be there 24 hours a day like he is now.


brenda m - Mar 20, 2005 4:35:37 pm PST #8923 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

The only kid I knew who fell into that category - graduated highschool at twelve, university at sixteen - his family was a total disarray in most respects. Certainly that wasn't the case there.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2005 4:35:40 pm PST #8924 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

how much of the accomplishment is child-driven?

I'd think most of it. Any kid that can read by 18 months, has to want to read by 18 months, you know?

I'm sure it's complex, and has a lot to do with wanting to please your parents, but if the ability is there, they might not be as driven by external forces as one might think, simply because what they're doing is so easy.

I mean, how could you tell if someone was forcing me to go to krav? They might even really want to force me to go, but, fuck, I was gonna be there anyway.

Which is to say -- I wonder, but wouldn't characterise my wonder as suspicion, just because there's so much I don't feel I'll ever understand.


Laura - Mar 20, 2005 4:40:12 pm PST #8925 of 10002
Our wings are not tired.

Although you point to the words when you read to the 18 month old child, I don't think many get that you are reading the words. They seem to think you are making up the story to go with the pictures. At least this is how it seemed to me. I don't think my kids knew what words were much before 3. This could be faulty memory.