Niska: Mr. Reynolds? You died, Mr. Reynolds. Mal: Seemed like the thing to do.

'War Stories'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Mar 06, 2005 11:58:44 am PST #4614 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It is always easier to see that something is sinful when an enemy starts practicing it.

You'd think, but that really wasn't the case in the early 30s in Europe. I'd grant your point if he changed his mind after the Holocaust. As it was he was protesting against Nazism as Hitler came to power, well before the horrific evidence of the Holocaust - that's when it mattered most.


Typo Boy - Mar 06, 2005 12:06:36 pm PST #4615 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

You'd think, but that really wasn't the case in the early 30s in Europe. I'd grant your point if he changed his mind after the Holocaust. As it was he was protesting against Nazism as Hitler came to power, well before the horrific evidence of the Holocaust - that's when it mattered most.

No, I know this was before the Holocaust. But it was still an enemy doing it. Most intellectuals in the UK in the thirties understood that Germany and Britain were going to war. So, yes, he gets credit for it being pre-holocaust. But still he did not object until somebody likely to go to war against his country started practicing it. It took that to call his attention to it. And meanwhile the anti-semitic culture he'd helped foster and keep respectable contributed to the Clivedon set that supported appeasement towards the Nazis. The time it would have really counted was not just before WWII but in the decades preceding it.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2005 12:14:46 pm PST #4616 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's 60 degrees here, sunny with a little breeze -- that perfect early spring day when you have the first softball practice of the season, and the ground is all damp and squshy so that your shoes get caked in mud but you don't care because you're so happy to be back out there, and you don't warm up enough before tossing the ball around so that the next day your arm is *killing* you but you don't care because you're so happy to be back out there throwing the ball around, and everything smells damp and new and just a little fecund.

I just took a long walk, and stopped to chat with a drag queen who was walking 2 pit bulls, both of whom sized me up and decided "This is a human who needs to be licked, now!"

Now I'm eating cheddar and kalamata olive hummus and strawberries. It's a good Sunday.


DavidS - Mar 06, 2005 12:19:10 pm PST #4617 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The time it would have really counted was not just before WWII but in the decades preceding it.

You just know PETA is going to use this argument against us for our non-Vegan diets...

that perfect early spring day when you have the first softball practice of the season, and the ground is all damp and squshy so that your shoes get caked in mud but you don't care because you're so happy to be back out there, and you don't warm up enough before tossing the ball around so that the next day your arm is *killing* you but you don't care because you're so happy to be back out there throwing the ball around, and everything smells damp and new and just a little fecund.

And in fact, Emmett and I have just returned from our first bit of baseball practice. Official team practice is tomorrow, but we spent a good 45 minutes playing catch, shagging flies, fielding grounders, pitching, catching and taking some BP (which ain't easy with two people). Emmett is shockingly UnRusty, considering we've only played catch twice all winter.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2005 12:22:46 pm PST #4618 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And in fact, Emmett and I have just returned from our first bit of baseball practice.

See, somehow I knew it.


erikaj - Mar 06, 2005 12:44:53 pm PST #4619 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I've got B.B. King tickets tonight...deficit spending at its...well, not quite finest, but close. It just seemed like such an omen watching Scorsese's Blues and having him come here.


Steph L. - Mar 06, 2005 12:51:38 pm PST #4620 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Oooh, erika, that'll be a GREAT show! I'm jealous.


erikaj - Mar 06, 2005 12:53:44 pm PST #4621 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Cool! Well, not the jealous part...I'm not petty enough to get a kick out of that today.


Scrappy - Mar 06, 2005 1:13:05 pm PST #4622 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

It's a beautiful day here, too. We were at the dog park, with zillions of dogs all romping around in delight. There was an adorable Portuguese Water Dog there, who insisted on standing in the communal water dish. It was kind of a "I am a water dog and I WILL get in the water and enjoy it. I know it's only two inches deep, but what can you do?" thing.


Allyson - Mar 06, 2005 1:15:02 pm PST #4623 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I just used my last bath bomb, and that was sad. Now, though I should really do laundry, I think a nap is in order. Me = lazy.