These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


Natter 33 1/3  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Mar 04, 2005 9:39:56 am PST #4095 of 10002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm on the ex-Michigan panel, too. NE mit division.


Aims - Mar 04, 2005 9:40:36 am PST #4096 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.

how to knock anyone down a peg in 3 easy steps,

BWAH! Love it.


beth b - Mar 04, 2005 9:41:39 am PST #4097 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I don't have an area. which is ok . because today I am going to glare at the rain and watch tv. eventually , I will drag my self to work.

I am not even an expert glarer.


Nutty - Mar 04, 2005 9:42:56 am PST #4098 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Hello, peeps. This would be a meara, except is it only a response to one post, 200 posts ago. This is what happens when I actually work.

So I thought about depth of field on my way into work.

Another 1960s data point on field depth might be John Frankenheimer, who often used waaay wide lenses to be able to catch foreground and background action without refocussing. In the commentary track of The Manchurian Candidate, he mentions that he cut his teeth on early live TV dramas, so it's entirely possible there were TV shooting conventions that involved wide-angle lenses.

Are there people or schools that mimic limited depth of field?

Sure. There are painters who make background objects blurry or vague. I mean, there are whole schools of "everything is blurry", but some of the background details in Vermeer paintings are dim and vague (dimness, especially, because he played with chiaroscuro a lot). There's a famous Velazquez painting called "Las Meninas" that contrasts foreground and background in a visual joke. (Blurry image of the king and queen, reflected in a mirror, that shows they are sitting dead center outside the frame of the painting, having their portraits painted.)

However, I think most Renaissance stuff goes for the crisp, bright detail, even in the background. There's a theory going around that the photorealistic paintings of the Dutch Renaissance are so photorealistic because they were painted over camera obscura projections of real objects. My admittedly small experience of the camera obscura is that it does not tend to offer depth perception at all. It's only a theory, and doesn't say a thing about the Italian Renaissance, which was also all about the crisp, so, grain of salt.

That is all. Except to say, why is March not April? What is that all about?


Maria - Mar 04, 2005 9:43:55 am PST #4099 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

beth b has libraries and gardening.

I so decree.


bon bon - Mar 04, 2005 9:45:10 am PST #4100 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I call shotgun.


ChiKat - Mar 04, 2005 9:45:33 am PST #4101 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I have no expertises. I am sad.


Pix - Mar 04, 2005 9:48:40 am PST #4102 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

That is all. Except to say, why is March not April? What is that all about?

There is not enough HELL YEAH in the world for how much I agree with that statement.


beth b - Mar 04, 2005 9:49:06 am PST #4103 of 10002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

libraries works.

gardening - well I only know the names of some of my plants. but I am very good at basic eco distrution - which is what CA gardening is all about.

DH guitar obbsession - found us a tree guy. Matt fixed tree guys guitar - we are going to get some tree work in trade. and chips for the sside yard that was adobe all summer and weeds all winter.

hey look Maria made me think about something other than the weather . bonus points.


sarameg - Mar 04, 2005 9:49:15 am PST #4104 of 10002

bon made me laugh.