Inara: Mal, this isn't the ancient sea. You don't have to go down with your ship. Mal: She ain't going down. She ain't going anywhere.

'Out Of Gas'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Mar 01, 2005 5:38:15 pm PST #3234 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

"The name....you want to touch / but you mustn't touch...."


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2005 5:40:17 pm PST #3235 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The book she's working from only talks about the symbolic foods (which do not a dinner make), so that's the extent of the official dinner plan, unless I can find a credible enough source to cite (pretty much anyone not -me) for other "traditional" stuff.

If you look at the Haggadah (the book that has the whole seder in it -- "seder" means "order," so what the Haggadah has is the specific order for doing things at the seder), one of the things is "Festive Meal," (in Hebrew, "Shulchan Orech,"), about halfway or 2/3 of the way through. Eat then. Generally, in Ashkenazic families, that'll be matzoh ball soup and/or gefilte fish follwed by some kind of meat dish with several potato-y sides, but there's nothing holding anyone to that.


Sean K - Mar 01, 2005 5:41:35 pm PST #3236 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

"The name....you want to touch / but you mustn't touch...."

"I'm Max Power."

"Ooh, nice name."

"Thanks, I got it off a hair dryer."


Hil R. - Mar 01, 2005 5:42:56 pm PST #3237 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

(Oh, and the Haggadah used by most families I know is the one made by Maxwell House, which has everything in both Hebrew and English and is about $3, or free if you buy enough coffee, I think.)


DebetEsse - Mar 01, 2005 5:51:14 pm PST #3238 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Allyson, that is the intent.

I have no control over the actual serving of the meal. I suspect that there will be a good bit of "what this means to us as Christians"-ing. I only have influence over food.


Allyson - Mar 01, 2005 5:58:35 pm PST #3239 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think, what it means to Christians is that it was Jesus' last meal.

Seder plate:

Bone from the roasted leg of lamb: Symbolizes the lambs sacrificed to smear blood on our doors so the Angel would "pass over" us.

Matzo is the unleavened bread. When running for our lives from Egypt, we had no time for the bread to rise. Had to haul ass because the pharoah was running to catch us.

Bitter herbs, symbolozing how bitter we were about the whole slavery thing.

Haroses, which is sort of an apple/nut/cinnamon chutney. It symbolizes the mortor used to make the pyramids while we were slaves.

Parsley , thanks to god for the green earth.

Water with salt to dip the herbs and parsley. I've been told this is about the tears shed in slavery, and about the red sea parting, but at any rate, eating it is gross.

Since they're learning about Judaism, about Jesus' faith, The kids should call the questions, the answers explain Passover, the seder plate, and then dinner should be not pizza. They could have latkes with sour cream or apple sauce, which are really good, easy to make, and a traditional food. I mean, it's a french fry patty.

I'm sorry if I sound impatient. I get weirdly sensitive that people don't know this stuff, and yet, I know tons about christianity. It's a minority reminder.


Kathy A - Mar 01, 2005 6:06:02 pm PST #3240 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

TAR: I am sooo glad that Rob/Amber didn't win that $20,000! Which, btw, shocked the heck out of me--the prize, I mean, not that they came in third place. Loved that the girls who were helping the mother/son team came in first. Bye bye, country boys, we'll miss your accents !


sumi - Mar 01, 2005 6:12:05 pm PST #3241 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

TAR: I must say that I am glad that this time around they picked teams that didn't irritate me as soon as they left the starting line. I also was very please that multiple people on this episide at at least a smattering if not actual fluency in Spanish. And hey -- weren't Gretchen & Meredith excellent with the llamas ?

I was surprised about the prize money too which made me extremely happy that Rob/Amber didn't come in first. Wonder if that was a special first place in the first leg prize or if they'll all win money for coming in first? The bonus is that it makes the attempt to come in first in each leg THAT much more meaningful.


Kathy A - Mar 01, 2005 6:14:21 pm PST #3242 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

TAR: The only team that really bugged me were the ones I figured might-- the on-again/off-again dating couple with the woman who was choking on her basket. I thought that their interactions might get a bit strained at the first sign of stress in the race, and I was right.


quester - Mar 01, 2005 6:23:17 pm PST #3243 of 10002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

TAR: Theolder couple bugged me, the whining and wheezing. Didn't they realize there was going to be running and stuff?