I must now leave work early in order to go to an "appointment" which I implied was medical, but is actually to get my hair cut. Woo Hoo!
No power in the 'verse can stop me.
River ,'War Stories'
Natter 33 1/3
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Scrappy - Mar 01, 2005 12:16:20 pm PST #3144 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2005 12:16:35 pm PST #3145 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That would have made me want to call her Will.
Nutty - Mar 01, 2005 12:16:49 pm PST #3146 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
As I recall, 24 has a long history of torture. In its 2nd season, Jack was the torture-ee, and nearly died before recovering well enough to continue the frantic day. In one year (can't remember which), Jack tortured someone by faking that he was murdering the torture-ee's family. In all cases, it's pretty much effective if the torturer is a good guy, and ineffective if the torturer is not.
Of course, this was the show that started season 2 with the murder and decapitation of someone, by the hero, for a very inane reason, and with no consequences at all. So, NSM with the reflecting of real life.
Personally, I think that if someone Tasered me in the completely unnecessary course of duty, I would be looking for an opportunity to Taser them back, hopefully in the goolies.
Kate P. - Mar 01, 2005 12:17:37 pm PST #3147 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
I was a home birth, but I'm not sure what street my parents lived on. Alberta, maybe? Which would give me Hilda Alberta. Or, ooh, I keep forgetting that our other cat's name at the time was Bunny. I could be Bunny Beach! OK, actually, I'm totally sticking with Bunny Beach from now on.
Kate P. - Mar 01, 2005 12:18:10 pm PST #3148 of 10002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love
I must now leave work early in order to go to an "appointment" which I implied was medical, but is actually to get my hair cut. Woo Hoo!
Robin, you are an inspiration to us all.
§ ita § - Mar 01, 2005 12:18:32 pm PST #3149 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
My assertion of the effectiveness is directly opposite to yours. I think in this season's scenario it raises ethical questions I'm pretty sure they aren't going to deal with.
shrift - Mar 01, 2005 12:18:42 pm PST #3150 of 10002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Huh. If I mix and match, my porn name would be Rose Vine. Or Tootsie Beal.
Dana - Mar 01, 2005 12:21:30 pm PST #3151 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
If I mix and match, my porn name would be Rose Vine. Or Tootsie Beal.
Tootsie Beal would be into weird fetish porn. Probably involving feet.
Jessica - Mar 01, 2005 12:22:39 pm PST #3152 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
This season, though, all the torturing has been done by the good guys, and twice so far it's been by the good guys to the good guys, with no results.
I agree with ita that they probably won't deal with the ethics questions in any meaningful way. Which is fine, because it's not that kind of show, but it makes watching it slightly stranger than in past seasons.
Topic!Cindy - Mar 01, 2005 12:29:32 pm PST #3153 of 10002
What is even happening?
ita, actually I was just taking the piss about the torture, when I first said it. It's the kind of thing dh or I would say to each other while watching, "Just back off, Audrey. Jack's got some vital work to accomplish."
I agree there's been an awful lot. I've been wondering though, if this season isn't going to be a meta indictment of US foreign policy, but agree it is unlikely we will see it dealt with in a way I find satisfying.