But ita, I need to know, would you put your life before JJs?
I mostly just want to watch you reenact that scene from the bodyguard and carry him through the crowd.
We knocked 'em deader!
Willow ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'
Natter 33 1/3
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Allyson - Feb 25, 2005 2:39:45 pm PST #1360 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 2:41:49 pm PST #1361 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I mostly just want to watch you reenact that scene from the bodyguard and carry him through the crowd.
Great. Spat brisket onto my screen.
t scrub t scrub
Well, it wouldn't count as heavy lifting, would it?
Beverly - Feb 25, 2005 2:43:27 pm PST #1362 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
How many homeless people could that monetary amount have fed?
...housed, medicated, and educated? My Inner Socialist Hippie is in the corner with Steph's.
Also, if the kid gets any money from his OBC, I vote it's put into an account to fund the massive therapy s/he's gonna need when s/he learns the method of conception. Freaky shit, man.
lori - Feb 25, 2005 2:52:37 pm PST #1363 of 10002
I mostly just want to watch you reenact that scene from the bodyguard and carry him through the crowd.
One set of footprints in the sand....
Allyson - Feb 25, 2005 2:58:30 pm PST #1364 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
That's when ita was carrying YOU, J.J.
Hil R. - Feb 25, 2005 3:01:00 pm PST #1365 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I don't think the rape analogy really works here. There are plenty of things, reproductively, that don't give men and women the same rights, just because biology doesn't work that way. For one thing, a woman who's been raped has the choice to have an abortion. This man does not. (And yes, I know that there are way more issues in there, and that the woman would probably have to pay for the abortion, and that not everyone would make that choice, and a million other things, but what I'm trying to say is that the cases are not comparable.)
Also, if a woman gets pregnant, and she doesn't want to have a baby but the father does, his opinion matters not at all, legally, in whether she gets an abortion. (This isn't directly relevant, just in the "reproductive rights are not equivalent for men and women" vein.)
And I completely disagree with the judges "gifted" ruling. Unless the man said, "Here, have some sperm," that was not a gift.
Tom Scola - Feb 25, 2005 3:05:39 pm PST #1366 of 10002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Whoah. Donald Sutherland's in an Avengers episode.
§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 3:07:07 pm PST #1367 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's Friday. It's past 5pm board time. I recommend everyone on the west coast go home, unless you're travelling my route, in which case stay at the office for an hour longer.
Because I'm outie.
DXMachina - Feb 25, 2005 3:08:12 pm PST #1368 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.
You can control where, and with whom you ejaculate, and how you dispose of the semen, after the fact.
I'll remember to bring a portable incinerator with me should I ever have sex again.
I'm sorry, I still find the argument that the child is his responsibility because he should have used due diligence to prevent her from harvesting his sperm and artificially inseminating herself to be bordering on asinine. Suppose she'd tied him to the bed, raped him, and then gotten pregnant? Is he still responsible?
eta: Also, what Hil said.
Scrappy - Feb 25, 2005 3:11:20 pm PST #1369 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Cindy, I don't buy the rape scenario you put forth. A pregnant woman isn't forced to be responsible--she can abort or give the child up for adoption. If she wants no financial reponsibility, she doesn't have to have any, rights of the child be damned.
That being said, I find this whole thing deeply, deeply sad.