But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 1:56:38 pm PST #1349 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Next you'll be saying Victoria has no Secret.


kat perez - Feb 25, 2005 2:00:21 pm PST #1350 of 10002
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Stop the madness!

Ginger, I was sorry to miss you. And I don't think it was Atlanta's fault. I seem to be like the cartoon character under the rain cloud lately because it was sunny (if cold) when I left NYC, and as soon as I blew back into town, snow!

Well, off home. At least I have my novela to look forward to. Mmm....Gitanas. I loves me some Telemundo.


Steph L. - Feb 25, 2005 2:00:28 pm PST #1351 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Other women politicians -- Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush, ...

Laura Bush isn't a politician. IJS.

Also, my Inner Socialist Hippie is APPALLED at the amount of money spent on those presenter baskets. Seriously. How many homeless people could that monetary amount have fed?


Topic!Cindy - Feb 25, 2005 2:00:35 pm PST #1352 of 10002
What is even happening?

If you leave a chain saw on your front lawn and someone comes along and cuts his finger off with it, you have some legal responsibility.
If someone steals it (deceptively collects, if you get my drift) do you still have the same responsibility? Where do you draw the due diligence line, and do you know enough about what happened to say he didn't exercise it?

That's just the thing. No matter what they mean by "deceptively collect" stealing is not an issue here, since the judge determined that Phillips gifted it to Irons. Doesn't the judge's decision on gifting it mean it has already been determined that she did not steal it? Isn't the "deceptively collect" catch-phrase more likely to be focusing on the deception of her conceiving with it, without telling him that's what she was going to do?

Yeah, extracting DNA from other cells will make your POV a bitch
No, because you shed DNA the way you breathe. You cannot help or control it. You can control where, and with whom you ejaculate, and how you dispose of the semen, after the fact.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 2:03:41 pm PST #1353 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How many homeless people could that monetary amount have fed?

Very many. But like I thought when Keanu turned down his Sundance gifties -- it's not even like some overworked PA will benefit instead. Just that the advertising department will have a bigger budget for mind control rays.

What blows me away is the fact that those services go for that much money. That people pay for them. But no doubt, people look at my iPod similarly.

because you shed DNA the way you breathe

Isn't it about the financial welfare of the kid, though? Jr doesn't care where the DNA came from.


Narrator - Feb 25, 2005 2:04:26 pm PST #1354 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Laura Bush isn't a politician. IJS.

In my opinion, yes she is. It's not necessary for her to run for or be appointed to office for her to be a politician. She's been out there actively campaigning for Bush and at least some of his policies. She has her own staff and makes appearances on behalf of causes she's promoting. She' may not be E. Roosevelt, but she's not some stay-at-home spouse, either.


Steph L. - Feb 25, 2005 2:06:42 pm PST #1355 of 10002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Eleanor Roosevelt wasn't a politician, either. Being a politician's spouse does not make someone a politician. The term I would use -- and it's very distinct from "politician" -- is "public figure." There's a real difference there.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 2:10:56 pm PST #1356 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The term I would use -- and it's very distinct from "politician" -- is "public figure." There's a real difference there.

For me, public figure is synonymous with celebrity, and doesn't require the amount of political activism that an agitating First Lady may be engaging in.

Not that I can think of one or two words that sums it up without implying elected official.


Allyson - Feb 25, 2005 2:14:41 pm PST #1357 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Also, there was no Betty Crocker. It's tricksy world.

I have a cousin named Betty Crocker, actually.


Jessica - Feb 25, 2005 2:24:18 pm PST #1358 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

since the judge determined that Phillips gifted it to Irons. Doesn't the judge's decision on gifting it mean it has already been determined that she did not steal it?

Legally, sure. In my opinion? Hell no. The judge determined wrong.

I think I should get nominated for an Oscar. It seems like a pretty good gig.