I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Maria - Feb 25, 2005 7:46:31 am PST #1208 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

when we see articles on children who are legally free for adoption, what's the what there? I'm thinking of a feature that runs in the The Boston Sunday Globe, called "Sunday's Child" which reports on children who are in need of foster or adoptive homes. In cases where a child is legally free for adoption, is he already in the foster system, and if so, is that because of other factors?

Those types of articles are usually about children already in the foster care system, so their purpose is to interest potential adoptive parents.

There are two basic types of adoption: private and through the state. Private adoptions involve a voluntary termination of parental rights. For example, an 18 year old girl is pregnant and wants to give her baby up for adoption, and the father either agrees or cannot be found. These types are usually arranged through private agencies or attorneys. Adoptions through the state usually involve older children, and usually come after an involuntary termination of parental rights. In these cases, the child is already in the foster system because the parent(s) is/are deemed to be unfit to care for the child.

Courts do not terminate parental rights easily. The supposition is always that a child is better off with his/her parents than anyone else. In the absence of contradictory evidence, the parent will always prevail.

what happens when conception is the result of a man raping a woman? If the woman chooses to give the child in adoption, can the biological father/rapist contest? Typically, does the court ignore him?

In most states, a rapist will be denied any parental rights, because it is not in the best interests of the child. Some states have codified this; others let case law set the precedent. There are some states that have yet to speak on this issue.

Keep in mind that parental rights and parental duties are independent of each other. A rapist may be ordered to pay child support, and at the same time not be allowed any contact with his offspring or a say in how the child is raised. In LEHR v. ROBERTSON, 463 U.S. 248 (1983), the Supreme Court held:

Where an unwed father demonstrates a full commitment to the responsibilities of parenthood by "com[ing] forward to participate in the rearing of his child," Caban v. Mohammed, 441 U.S. 380, 392 , his interest in personal contact with his child acquires substantial protection under the Due Process Clause. But the mere existence of a biological link does not merit equivalent protection. If the natural father fails to grasp the opportunity to develop a relationship with his child, the Constitution will not automatically compel a State to listen to his opinion of where the child's best interests lie.

Parental duty terminates when the parental rights are terminated, as in the case of adoption or other court proceeding.


Vortex - Feb 25, 2005 7:46:32 am PST #1209 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And as I understood things, they did not hide their feelings from the child.

If I were in that situation, I would try, but almost certainly fail.


Maria - Feb 25, 2005 7:49:04 am PST #1210 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I KNEW I would be x-posty with my fellow lawyeristas/lawgeekers.


Vortex - Feb 25, 2005 7:50:10 am PST #1211 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 8:01:09 am PST #1212 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I am unconvinced. Engaging in consensual oral sex is still a far cry from a stranger pawing through your trash unbeknownst to you

The point is, in the normal world, oral sex does not lead to pregnancy. There is no causality in the act of oral sex that makes a pregnancy; it requires further action, unrelated to the original sex act, for that to happen.

If the scenario I'm describing is hinky-but-legal, then the pawing through the trash is the next logical step, innit?

I mean, data-miners and expose reporters do it already, so I know that pawing through the trash for stuff you might want is not illegal. And if you do something with the stuff you want, and there are consequences...?


Lee - Feb 25, 2005 8:01:45 am PST #1213 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

So what's keeping your intestines from flopping down to your ankles? Surface tension?

Duct tape.

Duh.


§ ita § - Feb 25, 2005 8:03:56 am PST #1214 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Lee, you should switch the duct tape out for a corset.


-t - Feb 25, 2005 8:04:59 am PST #1215 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

No reason you can't make a corset out of duct tape.


Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 8:07:07 am PST #1216 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So what's keeping your intestines from flopping down to your ankles? Surface tension?

Actually I am told that pelvis bones are good for this. Also all those ligaments and stuff that attach to the bones. To get all gross, people with abdomen-crush injuries sometimes do have internal organ movement, which is generally a sign that the poor smushed dude wasn't going to survive anyway, and definitely won't now.


Consuela - Feb 25, 2005 8:08:07 am PST #1217 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Katie, I am not, in fact, working today! Which is why I can post here. Although in a minute I need to go take the dog for a long walk, and then take my mother shopping.

Yesterday? Was long.

6:30 am, Thursday: wake up and finish packing.
8:00 am, get on bus to Auckland.
12:30 pm, get off bus in Auckland.
12:45 pm, put luggage in locker in bus station, go off shopping in Auckland.
3:00 pm, realize never locked locker, race back to bus station up several steep hills, discover bags untouched, including friend's laptop, passport, and plane tickets.
3:15 pm, retire to Irish bar across the street for restorative beer.
4:15 pm, go back to bus station for bus to airport.
6:00 pm, finally arrive at airport.
6-7:30 pm, go through several levels of security, discover that there are no TimTams to be purchased in the airport, get disconsolate.

Then we flew for ten hours and arrived in LA the morning of the evening we left. And then there was another flight to SFO, and then a train ride, and a phone call, and then I finally arrived home around 4 pm on Thursday, after traveling for about 27 hours, I think.

Long day.

Today, I do laundry. And shower. And stuff.