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Topic!Cindy - Feb 25, 2005 5:08:07 am PST #1143 of 10002
What is even happening?

What if the parties practice safe sex? Even the most reliable forms of contraception have failure rates?


sarameg - Feb 25, 2005 5:08:25 am PST #1144 of 10002

You know, when everything is covered in snow still white and pristine and the sun is sparkling brightly through snow blowing from a cloud off on the horizon, it really shouldn't smell like rotting meat outside.

No idea the source of the stink, maybe just a mini-inversion thing happening, but gack. It sometimes happens after it rains heavily, though that stink tends towards wet dog more than rotting meat. Gack.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2005 5:08:26 am PST #1145 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

"when plaintiff 'delivered' his sperm, it was a gift.... There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request."

OMG. Har.

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Theodosia - Feb 25, 2005 5:15:25 am PST #1146 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Er -- correct, Cindy. Condom failures (and really, you shouldn't rely on them completely anyway) are a risk both parties take. But 'oral-sex-with-condom' was a gift with conditions, as it wasn't intended to be used for conceptatory purpose.


tommyrot - Feb 25, 2005 5:24:52 am PST #1147 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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Narrator - Feb 25, 2005 5:25:56 am PST #1148 of 10002
The evil is this way?

"when plaintiff 'delivered' his sperm, it was a gift.... There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request."

Hee. I luvs funny judges.


Nutty - Feb 25, 2005 5:27:04 am PST #1149 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I am thinking that I saw this plot of that Michael J. Fox sitcom. Except it was somebody from Melrose Place and she had an old condom in the freezer and half the joke was finding verbal gymnastics to get across the topic without saying naughty words at 8pm.

I also think this whole case is just one giant step away from the "pass out at a party, wake up in an icy bathtub missing a kidney" thing.


tommyrot - Feb 25, 2005 5:28:15 am PST #1150 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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tommyrot - Feb 25, 2005 5:34:26 am PST #1151 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

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Topic!Cindy - Feb 25, 2005 5:35:21 am PST #1152 of 10002
What is even happening?

Narrator, I know. That judge cracked me up so badly, I can barely continue.

Theo, it's from the child's point of view, with a sideways glance from Nature's point of view, that I'm finding myself mostly in agreement with the funny judge. Why should this child be completely dependent on this woman, for support?

Ethically speaking, the woman's actions are a horrible betrayal of trust. I would never argue against that. I also think she has a lot of gall to seek child support.

That said, this man apparently entrusted her with his responsibility, that is...oh, this conversation is so silly, because I just keep thinking SPERM SPERM SPERM, and I am hoping that typing that out will make it stop.

Okay, trying again. t /12 All I'm trying to decide is why he should be completely exempt from the responsibility for the product of his sperm. Granted, it's not a responsibility he asked for or sought. That said, conception as a result of rape is not a responsibility a woman asks for, and she does not even consent to sexual acts. Nature demands she still has to take a measure of responsibility for the product of her eggs, no matter whether or not she consented to the fertilization, and regardless of the way in which she chooses to take responsibility (termination of pregnancy; gestation & rearing the child; gestation and giving the child in adoption). Our laws would not allow a woman who conceived without her consent to not provide for a baby after it is born, either by choosing to fulfill her parental responsibilities, or giving the child to another family. In other words, she couldn't just leave a baby outside to die, or refuse to feed a baby without being subject to legal repercussions, even if the baby was conceived without her consent.

Since this particular pregnancy was the result of a combination of a consensual act and a use of his sperm he didn't consider, doesn't sway me to the point where he doesn't bear some responsibility, even if it sucks to be him. And it does. And she has a lot of gall. And I'm glad he can sue her for emotional damages, because gah--what a thing to do to someone.