We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


DebetEsse - Aug 13, 2007 1:18:08 pm PDT #9269 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

You could also do something with the "being a Black-Clad-Freak didn’t have to mean being depressed and snarly." stuff from the bio page.


Atropa - Aug 13, 2007 1:24:47 pm PDT #9270 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Okay, how's this:

Spooky kids. Morbid teens. They all think they’re vampires. These are just a few of the clichés that people believe about the Gothic subculture. For the past ten years Jillian Venters (writing as the Lady of the Manners) has explained that being a Black-Clad-Freak didn’t have to mean being depressed and snarly. (Witty, sarcastic, and possibly a touch cynical, yes. Mean-spirited, sullen, and rude, no.) Since then, the Lady of the Manners has spent a not-inconsiderable amount of time trying to gently persuade others in her chosen subculture that being a Goth and being polite is much, much more subversive than just wearing black t-shirts with "edgy" sayings on them. GOTHIC CHARM SCHOOL is a look at what life is like as a Goth, and advice on dealing common Goth dilemmas such as people assuming your eccentric wardrobe is a costume, why parents shouldn’t worry if their child starts wearing black velvet and eyeliner, and why friends shouldn’t let friends dress like The Crow.


Beverly - Aug 13, 2007 1:29:47 pm PDT #9271 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Dear heaven, that tag never gets old, does it? Makes me happy every time I hear it, and always makes me think of GCS.


erikaj - Aug 13, 2007 1:40:47 pm PDT #9272 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

nicely done, Jilli.


Deena - Aug 13, 2007 1:44:15 pm PDT #9273 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

It's missing a "with"

dealing --with--common Goth....

Otherwise, it's very good.


Atropa - Aug 13, 2007 1:46:17 pm PDT #9274 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Ah-ha! Thank you, Deena! And thank you, DebetEsse, for prompting me to go look at my bio page for part of this.


erikaj - Aug 15, 2007 9:39:55 am PDT #9275 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Mystery writers and fans: For my next mystery, I want it to be one where it's not a whodunit...where we know who the killer is. But I don't want my detectives to look stupid...I need some advice about clues.


lisah - Aug 15, 2007 9:43:37 am PDT #9276 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

Mystery writers and fans: For my next mystery, I want it to be one where it's not a whodunit...

erika, have you read Laura Lippman's latest? It still sort of a whodunit but not really.


Toddson - Aug 15, 2007 9:45:48 am PDT #9277 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

erika, you could write it so that we find out things as the detectives do. Or, if they already know who did it, how they pull together evidence to try and convict the person. Or tell it from the murderer's viewpoint, put them in the position of being able to watch the detectives detect, and see how they do it.


Ginger - Aug 15, 2007 9:48:37 am PDT #9278 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I think the main thing is to give a fair number of other people good motives and at least possible opportunity. You can go too far with that, of course; there was a P.D. James novel that after I found out why many people would want to kill this person, I wanted her dead too.