Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.

Buffy ,'Beneath You'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

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Susan W. - Mar 25, 2005 9:06:28 am PST #834 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I feel like I'm accidentally casting myself as Heyer-hater, when that's not what I am at all. I like her writing. I even like it a lot. It's just that my reaction to her stories is: "These are interesting. These are good fun." But that's all. She doesn't grab me by the throat and sweep me off my feet. So I get puzzled by the adulation. And when I feel like people are telling me I must study Heyer, must write like Heyer, etc., I get prickly, because doing that would mean stepping back from the kind of storytelling that does grab me.


deborah grabien - Mar 25, 2005 9:14:26 am PST #835 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

And when I feel like people are telling me I must study Heyer, must write like Heyer, etc., I get prickly, because doing that would mean stepping back from the kind of storytelling that does grab me.

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Someone told you had to write like Heyer? the FUCK? That's nuts.

Read her stuff, yes, definitely. I write ghost stories, I read Shirley Jackson. She's the gold standard of that genre. Luckily for me, I adore her and everything she's every written. I write mysteries, unusual cozies, and I have a custom bookcase with nothing but mystery novels, from Aird to Yorke. The gold standard is probably Christie, and I love her, but she isn't my gold standard.

But Heyer is the gold standard for a particular genre. So yeah, if I was writing in that period, I'd read her. I don't think you (or I, or any other period writer: this is the universal You I'm talking about) gain anything by consciously deciding to avoid the leading seller in the field. There's a reason she's in that position.

But write like her? Why on earth? Only an idiot would tell you to do that, and besides, why bother? As Robin pointed out, Heyer has her own very distinctive voice. Your voice is, and should be, your own.


erikaj - Mar 25, 2005 9:17:22 am PST #836 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Sometimes I think I do ride too many coattails, what I don't just take, wholly that is. Not the same ones, obviously. But I asked a lot of questions and have been reading a lot of books myself. But because I'm new at it, everything does feel like fic of those who came before me.


deborah grabien - Mar 25, 2005 9:19:48 am PST #837 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

erika, that feeling is inevitable, especially with first novels. Any honest writer is going to look at the finished product and think, uh-oh, what did I steal and who did I steal it from...?

We all do it. Don't worry - when it gets to the editor's desk, she'll let you know.


Susan W. - Mar 25, 2005 9:25:11 am PST #838 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Well, I'm not consciously trying to avoid her, by any means. (Well, except insofar as my "avoid Rifle fiction until I'm done writing it" rule keeps me away from one of my favorites among her books.) I've read a good chunk of her output, and I have 2-3 of her books on my TBR shelf right this minute. t shrugs I think I can acknowledge her importance to the genre while simultaneously acknowledging that I connect more strongly with Austen or even Patrick O'Brian. And that insofar as I dare to name myself in the same breath as the great ones, my natural style/voice comes much closer to theirs than to Heyer's.


Susan W. - Mar 25, 2005 9:25:13 am PST #839 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

(didn't need to say it twice)


erikaj - Mar 25, 2005 9:26:18 am PST #840 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I mean, I really respect those people. If there's a homage to somebody, I don't think that is so awful.(My character's fake name is "Marlo Phillips" after all.) What I don't want is people reading along like "Another Grafton wannabe. Boring."


Pix - Mar 25, 2005 10:17:02 am PST #841 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Wow. March just handed me more good news...

Dear Ms. Taylor:
We would like to use your submission, "Letters from the Past," as a "Snapshots" feature in a future issue of English Journal. More details will follow in the coming weeks, including the official acceptance materials, but I wanted to inform you of this decision now. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Sincerely, Theresa Kay

Thank you SO MUCH. You all helped me so much when I was editing this piece.


SailAweigh - Mar 25, 2005 10:21:39 am PST #842 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

That's great news, Kristin!


erikaj - Mar 25, 2005 10:22:15 am PST #843 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yay! Kristin, congrats. Also to Susan for 100 pages.