Wesley: Illyria can be...difficult. Testing her might be hard without getting someone seriously hurt. Angel: We'll make Spike do it. Wesley: Good.

'Underneath'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Strix - Jun 09, 2006 6:28:05 pm PDT #7057 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. ā€” Ginger

Actually, I have another question.

How do people decide how much to write? More specifically, setting weekly or daily goals? AmyLiz has indicated that most books in the genre I am writing in, paranormal romance or erotica are about 80,000 words or roughly 400 pages. I have 40 pages and I've set myself a goal of 2 pages a day, at least 5 days a week. Which I haven't done in the last week (sick) but I hammered out 4.5 pages in the last two days.

Now, I am proud of myself because my main goal -- my ulimate goal -- is to write a book. Beginning, middle, end, done. And I am hardly the queen of consistency, so right now my focus is on setting up habit.

However, since I am a freakish Virgo, my mind always goes to the better, more part of things.

How do others set up goals for long-term lengthy projects? If I was writing a long research paper, I would have no problem saying "X pages per night; due on this date; revisions two weeks before."

But a novel? I am adrift.

EDIT: And for a taste of part of the reason I am asking this question, upon re-reading I thought, "4.5 pages? In 2 days? That's PATHETIC." Cause I'm used to writing 4.5 pages of research or narrative essays or something similar in like 2 hours. So I'm trying to get a norm, if there be such a beast.


-t - Jun 09, 2006 8:37:19 pm PDT #7058 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yes, I want the more pages!

As to the other, I dunno. 2 pages every day is (figuring conservatively taking weekends off) 40 pages/month, gets you to 400 pages within a year, which seems quite fast enough to be "normal". I think any goal is gonna be necessarily arbitrary until you get a feel for how you work best.


deborah grabien - Jun 09, 2006 10:25:02 pm PDT #7059 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

But a novel? I am adrift.

I don't know. I'm one of those irritating "organic" writers. I figure I'll stop when the story's told. If it's too short for one editor, it probably won't be for another one. If it's too short for all of them, I'll take another look then.


SailAweigh - Jun 10, 2006 3:18:01 am PDT #7060 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Erin, send it along! The more porn snark, the better.


SailAweigh - Jun 10, 2006 4:12:23 am PDT #7061 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Sky Writing

The breeze off the water cooled my sweaty skin. Iā€™d been at this for a couple of hours. The radio, instead of blaring rock and roll or wailing blues, my usual fare, soared in a crescendo of piano runs composed by Chopin. The sweeping strains of music helped me with my writing. As the music rose to a peak, I pulled in my right arm, relaxed the left, letting the straining lines unwind. With a final flourish, the kite bowed over the crowd, its tails whistling over their ducking heads, putting the final punctuation on my poem in the sky


Beverly - Jun 10, 2006 6:11:27 am PDT #7062 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Ooh, nice one, Sail.


sfmarty - Jun 10, 2006 6:18:46 am PDT #7063 of 10001
Who? moi??

Erin, a friend of mine took 7 years to write the last third of his novel. His fans got a wee bit impatient. His affectionate name for it was Tree Killer, since it was so long.


Allyson - Jun 10, 2006 6:45:41 am PDT #7064 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

How much time does it take to paint a picture? Sometimes inspiration keeps you up all night, sometimes it's taking a long vacation in napsville. I've given this a great deal of thought, and as hard as I try to churn out 2000 words a night, it just doesn't work that way, for me. I can churn out 6000 in a sitting once a story has my brain in its teeth.

Some writers write on a schedule, and their brains turn on from 2pm to 8pm, some write when the iron is hot. You'll find your own pace and become comfy with it.


Typo Boy - Jun 10, 2006 7:21:28 am PDT #7065 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Allyson - if I understand your deadline properly you only have to do ~500 words a night (counting from the time you first discovered you were 9,000 short) to make it. Don't know if a tiny fragment every day fits into your style either.


Strix - Jun 10, 2006 7:27:26 am PDT #7066 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. ā€” Ginger

I kinda figured it would be an arbitrary answer -- which is obscurely comforting.

t- and Sail, insent!