Very convincing. Makes me completely want to put myself under government control. Please take me to where you can make me unconscious and naked.

Riley ,'Help'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Steph L. - Jun 04, 2006 7:24:31 am PDT #6941 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I'm thinking probably somewhere between a dozen and 16 or so writers total, but I could be talking entirely out of my ass. Once I do the proposal, I can get a better idea as to how many.

I'm just thinking out loud, but could the anthology be structured by topic, choosing 12-16 topics, rather than authors?


Amy - Jun 04, 2006 7:40:22 am PDT #6942 of 10001
Because books.

I'm just thinking out loud, but could the anthology be structured by topic, choosing 12-16 topics, rather than authors?

Obviously, it depends on what BenBella would want to do, if they're even interested, but I like this idea, too.

The problem -- if you want to look at it that way -- is that they pay very little for essays in their other anthologies. This might wind up being a "paid in copies" deal, if there are a lot of authors involved, but that wouldn't matter to me.


Steph L. - Jun 04, 2006 7:45:07 am PDT #6943 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Honestly, I wasn't even thinking about $$. At all. It never actually occurred to me. I'm just thrilled at the possibility of getting our words out.

(Yes, that was a Wonderfalls reference.)


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 7:49:46 am PDT #6944 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm just thinking out loud, but could the anthology be structured by topic, choosing 12-16 topics, rather than authors?

Obviously, it depends on what BenBella would want to do, if they're even interested, but I like this idea, too.

I was actually planning on structuring it by topic, rather than writer. If it's being pitched as essentially a non-fiction deal, then the topic becomes the primary focus: using the variations on each topic to illustrate how different writers might interpret and use.

Amy, I'm assuming you have no objection to being one of the proposal "name legs"? Laura Anne has indicated she wants to play, so there's three.


Amy - Jun 04, 2006 7:55:07 am PDT #6945 of 10001
Because books.

Amy, I'm assuming you have no objection to being one of the proposal "name legs"? Laura Anne has indicated she wants to play, so there's three.

Not at all. And yay for Laura Anne playing!


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 7:56:09 am PDT #6946 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Man. I wish I had the ability to drabble.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 8:05:03 am PDT #6947 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I wish I had the ability to drabble.

So do I. Are you sure you don't? Some nice crisp 100-word observations on fandom?


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 8:14:37 am PDT #6948 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I've made the attempt. It never works out well.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 8:25:43 am PDT #6949 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah. I think the paid in copies thing would make sense - maybe not even always that. I mean what if someone has written one really good drabble? You want to leave that out if they are willing to contribute it? And somewhere in the range of zero to one copies equals market rate of compensation for 100 words of fiction from a non-name. If there is any money it shold go the names, and perhaps to people who make really signficant contribution. (That might be a fair distinction - major and minor contributors.)


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 8:35:50 am PDT #6950 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

No point in discussing money until we know if it's even up BenBella's alley. Glenn may read the proposal and say something unprintable; you never know. I tend to think not, since anthologies are BenBella's mainstay.

My feeling about it is pretty straightforward: there are a lot of very good writers in here, who have yet to publish anything in the "buy this for money" print medium. This would be a fabulous way of getting them into print.

For me, since there isn't likely to be much money in this anyway, that doesn't really arise. My thing is the above (getting all your words out), plus I've become fierce in my love for the form itself, and think it can be a perfect writer's tool.

I do want to make damned sure that, if this does fly, everyone understands that it isn't a popularity contest or any of that crap. I don't want hard feelings and pissiness and people feeling hurt if, for instance, BenBella does what the editor at Seal Press did: cut the list of twenty writers down to (I think) eleven.