Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 7:49:46 am PDT #6944 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I'm just thinking out loud, but could the anthology be structured by topic, choosing 12-16 topics, rather than authors?

Obviously, it depends on what BenBella would want to do, if they're even interested, but I like this idea, too.

I was actually planning on structuring it by topic, rather than writer. If it's being pitched as essentially a non-fiction deal, then the topic becomes the primary focus: using the variations on each topic to illustrate how different writers might interpret and use.

Amy, I'm assuming you have no objection to being one of the proposal "name legs"? Laura Anne has indicated she wants to play, so there's three.


Amy - Jun 04, 2006 7:55:07 am PDT #6945 of 10001
Because books.

Amy, I'm assuming you have no objection to being one of the proposal "name legs"? Laura Anne has indicated she wants to play, so there's three.

Not at all. And yay for Laura Anne playing!


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 7:56:09 am PDT #6946 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Man. I wish I had the ability to drabble.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 8:05:03 am PDT #6947 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I wish I had the ability to drabble.

So do I. Are you sure you don't? Some nice crisp 100-word observations on fandom?


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 8:14:37 am PDT #6948 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I've made the attempt. It never works out well.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 8:25:43 am PDT #6949 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah. I think the paid in copies thing would make sense - maybe not even always that. I mean what if someone has written one really good drabble? You want to leave that out if they are willing to contribute it? And somewhere in the range of zero to one copies equals market rate of compensation for 100 words of fiction from a non-name. If there is any money it shold go the names, and perhaps to people who make really signficant contribution. (That might be a fair distinction - major and minor contributors.)


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 8:35:50 am PDT #6950 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

No point in discussing money until we know if it's even up BenBella's alley. Glenn may read the proposal and say something unprintable; you never know. I tend to think not, since anthologies are BenBella's mainstay.

My feeling about it is pretty straightforward: there are a lot of very good writers in here, who have yet to publish anything in the "buy this for money" print medium. This would be a fabulous way of getting them into print.

For me, since there isn't likely to be much money in this anyway, that doesn't really arise. My thing is the above (getting all your words out), plus I've become fierce in my love for the form itself, and think it can be a perfect writer's tool.

I do want to make damned sure that, if this does fly, everyone understands that it isn't a popularity contest or any of that crap. I don't want hard feelings and pissiness and people feeling hurt if, for instance, BenBella does what the editor at Seal Press did: cut the list of twenty writers down to (I think) eleven.


Typo Boy - Jun 04, 2006 9:42:32 am PDT #6951 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sure. The whole point of collection is what you said. The editor may love books, but she also works for a business. If this comes to fruition, In the end what will be picked will be the authors and drabbles the editor thinks will produce a book that has a shot of earning money. Of course everyone (or almost everyone) who wrote a drabble will hope to be picked. And of course those who are not picked will feel a moment of disappointment - even as they feel happy to see the others get included. I think we are all human enough for the former. I think we are all adult enough with, and have enough generousity of spirit for the latter to predominate.


deborah grabien - Jun 04, 2006 9:50:04 am PDT #6952 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

TB, I hope you're right, but the truth is, there's a lot of ego wrapped up in writing, and well there should be: no one wants their baby snubbed, and that includes me. There's no negative connotation on the word "ego" there.

What I would do is include sample topics with one or two sample drabbles for each topic, as part of the proposal. The ones I used would be what I considered the most illustrative of writing on the topic. So I'd have to get an acknowledgement from the proposal inclusion drabble writers that use of their work as part of the proposal was okay with them.


Allyson - Jun 04, 2006 10:10:03 am PDT #6953 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hey deb and amy, I'm kind of terrified that I'm not going to make my deadline simply because I've run out of things to write. Even after beefing up existing work, and with one final essay to be completed today, I'm still 9000 words short. Somehow, I managed to LOSE WORDCOUNT.

I'm freaking out, needless to say. I'm unsure if I should contact my editor and say, "this is due in four weeks, and I don't know what to do, and I think I need to give the money back."

I'm not sure what I can do, or even if it's appropriate to bring it up.

Advice?