Remember that sex we were planning to have, ever again?

Zoe ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


deborah grabien - Apr 05, 2006 8:28:25 am PDT #5921 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Curious boundaries. It's something I can run with.

And there you go. Can I beta when it's done, please?


Allyson - Apr 05, 2006 8:31:20 am PDT #5922 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You make me feel less like a needy pain in the ass, deb. Thank you.


deborah grabien - Apr 05, 2006 9:21:01 am PDT #5923 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

You make me feel less like a needy pain in the ass, deb.

Um - Allyson? You want to see a dictionary description of "needy pain in the ass", try me sending out chapter sections of the Kinkaid Chronicles to the thirty or so people on my active WIP list, begging for feedback.

You are not being a needy pain in the ass. You're being a writer. The need for feedback and input, that's a humongous part of what we do.

Unless you're someone like Anne Rice, in which case you just write crap, refuse to let anyone touch it, and take out ads in "Variety".


Beverly - Apr 05, 2006 11:49:31 am PDT #5924 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Well, she has taken out an ad in Variety--or helped to do one.

...just not for herself or her own stuff. I'd like to beta, too, Allyson, if you think I'd be of any help.


deborah grabien - Apr 05, 2006 12:14:33 pm PDT #5925 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Heh. But not to bitch at the publishing power that be for daring to want to edit her perfect work.

Sorry. Anne Rice makes me want to grab some semi-automatic ordinance and wander up into a clock tower somewhere. And Allyson can write rings around Anne Rice.


erikaj - Apr 05, 2006 12:21:38 pm PDT #5926 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

All of us can. To get West Baltimore about it, Anne Rice is a punkassed bitch. She ain't shit. But she could buy and sell us...no, I'm not bitter. Kind of picturing us typing in a dark alley, while I say stuff like "Where's your publicist now? I don't see her here. Just you and me."


ChiKat - Apr 05, 2006 12:23:29 pm PDT #5927 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I love erika.


Amy - Apr 05, 2006 12:28:13 pm PDT #5928 of 10001
Because books.

I thought Rice's early books weren't bad, but she's definitely one of those writers that fame and adulation affected badly.


erikaj - Apr 05, 2006 12:34:27 pm PDT #5929 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks... A little too much inner-city fiction lately, but still like the thought of GWW as my crew and taking her pretentious ass down. But it's not really Rice that cured me of thinking if a lot of people like something there must be something in it as Dan Brown. God, that junk is awful. Especially the dialogue that is written as if he spent ten years in a cave far removed from human speech, which I notice because I'm good at it. And the completely not-sexy love scenes. He should be my little lap dog, bringing soda and cannoli, but I'm still a broke newbie.


deborah grabien - Apr 05, 2006 12:59:43 pm PDT #5930 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

I thought Rice's early books weren't bad, but she's definitely one of those writers that fame and adulation affected badly.

I don't think I know of a worse case than Rice of believing her own press. And FWIW, honestly, I fell asleep trying to read "Interview". She did one character that I could get into at all, one character that she seemed to me to be writing with genuine passion and echoes, and that was Claudia, the child vampire. And of course, Claudia was based on her own child who'd died. But everything else of hers, put me to sleep.

She even writes boring porn. If that's not a criminal offence, it SHOULD be.