Not all gangsters are mobsters. Mostly, now, it seems to break down ethnically with mobsters being more likely to be the old-school neighborhood Italian, Jewish, and Irish wiseguys. Gangsters can be black and Hispanic... Maybe actually it's an organization thing...gangsters not being able to trace back to the Five Families and such. Dude, I'm "Rain Man" with brass knuckles and a bag of chronic.
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erikaj - Sep 08, 2005 9:10:23 am PDT #3894 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Connie Neil - Sep 08, 2005 9:14:31 am PDT #3895 of 10001
brillig
Dude, I'm "Rain Man" with brass knuckles and a bag of chronic.
You are a font of arcane and specialized knowledge. People get paid for that sort of thing.
erikaj - Sep 08, 2005 9:31:29 am PDT #3896 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Except for...I'm not sure that I'm right.(There goes that job at FEMA. Dag.) But I think you can't be a mobster without being able to trace your bona fides. And you're only mob-connected till you take the oath and get "made", which some close mob associates never can because they're not fully Sicilian.
Deena - Sep 08, 2005 9:49:46 am PDT #3897 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
There goes that job at FEMA. Dag.
I don't think a job at FEMA requires you to be right, only confident.
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deborah grabien - Sep 08, 2005 9:52:00 am PDT #3898 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Hee! Will do, Deena.
I'm not going to get anything written until tonight. Neighbours on both sides are doing construction projects. Fucketyboo.
Kristen - Sep 08, 2005 10:00:26 am PDT #3899 of 10001
I think you can't be a mobster without being able to trace your bona fides. And you're only mob-connected till you take the oath and get "made", which some close mob associates never can because they're not fully Sicilian.
You don't have to be specifically Sicilian. But, yes, you do have to be fully Italian and able to trace your roots back. Until you get made, you're just an associate.
Connie Neil - Sep 08, 2005 10:06:22 am PDT #3900 of 10001
brillig
I'm suddenly picturing an appendix to Miss Manners that I never imagined. "Solly, it has come to our attention that you've been claiming status you're not entitled to." "Joey, I swear, I'm Italian through and through." "Your mother's from Minnesota, Solly. As far as I know, lutefisk is not a featured dish at the Sons of Italy."
Betsy HP - Sep 08, 2005 10:08:44 am PDT #3901 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
. But, yes, you do have to be fully Italian and able to trace your roots back.
Tell it to Bugsy Siegel.
deborah grabien - Sep 08, 2005 10:18:11 am PDT #3902 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Dutch Schultz?
Lyra Jane - Sep 08, 2005 10:21:23 am PDT #3903 of 10001
Up with the sun
My understanding is that you can be Mafia-connected/a racketeer/ a "mobster" in the general sense, but you do need to be Italian to join the Mafia itself. I've only heard this in connection with Henry Hill -- he couldn't join because his father was Irish.