Travers: Perhaps you'll favor us with a demonstration while we're here. Buffy: You mean, like, right now? 'Cause, already had my recommended daily dose of fights tonight.

'Potential'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Hil R. - Aug 12, 2005 10:17:05 am PDT #3595 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Can we talk regionalisms for a minute? Does anyone outside of Somerville say "So don't I" when they mean "So do I"?

One of my professors uses it and other similar constructions (and totally confuses everyone whose first language isn't English.) He grew up in Worcester.


ChiKat - Aug 12, 2005 10:31:21 am PDT #3596 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

One of my professors uses it and other similar constructions (and totally confuses everyone whose first language isn't English.)

Shoot, he'd confuse me and my only language is English. Well, and Pig Latin.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 12, 2005 10:41:22 am PDT #3597 of 10001
What is even happening?

Jesse, here are some discussions of "So don't I":

(MA) [link]

(MA) [link]

(PA, and Central NY?) [link]

(not just MA?, and in reference to the prior link) [link]

(Carleton County, New Brunswick, CA) [link]

(Vermont) [link]

It appears it might be in lyrics to a song (maybe by Queen, I didn't click the lyrics links because they're usually terrible about pop-ups and viruses).

I can hear myself saying it now in response to certain questions, or if I've phrased a rhetorical in the negative, with "wouldn't you" or something. Huh.


Anne W. - Aug 12, 2005 10:45:20 am PDT #3598 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

It might even be a family thing, or social circle sort of thing. I was caught short by both the "neither" and the "them boxes".

It may be a social class thing. My grandparents were way down on the social totem pole.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 12, 2005 10:46:36 am PDT #3599 of 10001
What is even happening?

Did they grow up on the Cape, or settle there?


Amy - Aug 12, 2005 10:47:00 am PDT #3600 of 10001
Because books.

I have nothing useful to say about writing dialect. When it's done well, I have no problem reading it, but when it's not...ugh. Then it turns into something to slog through, which ruins the reading for me. Finding the right balance seems like the most important thing -- picking the handful of words that need the emphasis to give the text the right flavor.

And copyediting it is a nightmare, especially when it's done badly, because you have make everything consistent.

Does anyone outside of Somerville say "So don't I" when they mean "So do I"?

I've never heard this.


Anne W. - Aug 12, 2005 10:49:23 am PDT #3601 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Did they grow up on the Cape, or settle there?

They grew up there. In fact, except for a couple of trips to Boston, my grandmother never left the Cape until she was in her late fifties.


Lyra Jane - Aug 12, 2005 11:32:07 am PDT #3602 of 10001
Up with the sun

"De" is closer in spelling to "the" than is "di".

Well, yeah, but as I noted, not much. And it's pronounced differently (in fact, I think that we use "de" or "dey" for the patois for "there"). Is it still worth it then?

I think some of it is that American sometimes use "de" for "the" when writing certain accents, and that's why it looks more familiar. I'm not sure it's worth it, though.

I don't say "so don't I," but I do say "I could care less," to mean "I don't care," which makes just as little sense


Allyson - Aug 12, 2005 12:17:27 pm PDT #3603 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm doing a rewrite/polish on Save Firefly, which will be the sample essay in the proposal. I expect to complete it by tonight, and was wondering if anyone could do a quick beta to make sure I'm not on crack. I have to add the piece about the movie getting made, and the growing myth that we had anything to do with it.


deborah grabien - Aug 12, 2005 12:24:51 pm PDT #3604 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Allyson, bebe, send it along.

edit: bearing in mind that I'm leaving for San Diego tomorrow morning, and getting back Sunday night...